F800GS Pannier design considerations.

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by RedHawk47, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    Here you go, Griz.

    David
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  2. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    I've had some significant hands on time with the Trax bags for the F800GS. They're quite nice overall, especially considering the price and the soft liners that are available for it. Specially like the look of the bike with the bags all in black. Price for the two bags setup for the F800GS, including mount, adapter and locks is less than $850.

    The only thing I didn't like about them is that you cant take the key from the lock when open, which means you have to either A) unlock each bag with the key when trying to get something out of them, or B) don't install the locks. :lol3

    I'll see if I can dig up some pictures of the setup when I get home tonight. I know that I have a bunch. There are a few on F800 Depot and pics of a Trax setup on my F800S on F800 Riders.
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  3. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    Rob, did you have the bolt-to-plastic contact problem documented in UKGSer post linked to by David?
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  4. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    Negtive, I did not. I do concur with him about not moving the indicators. I didn't move them when installing the quick-disconnect kit on my F800S either.

    I wouldn't hesitate on running with them -- especially with all three pieces.

    FWIW, and a little bit off-Trax-topic, I have the R1200GS adventure cases installed now with the Holan as I ended up selling my Trax setup. They're about 2" wider but I really can't notice a difference in look and feel. I ended up changing to the Adventure setup because I wanted to put some serious time on using Holan products before starting to import them.

    Also, more pics:

    http://www.twistedthrottle.com/article/articleview/228/1/9/
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  5. springfish

    springfish Been here awhile

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    I LOVE the size and quality of the Jesse boxes, however the fact that they didn't include tie down points on the lids is a total miss. I'm not about to spend the $$ for them only to have to drill (and waterproof) holes to add my own strap points.

    REAL dumb.
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  6. huckleberry

    huckleberry BACK ROAD BOMBER

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    i was told the 10" were around 15lbs.so i would assume the 8" to weigh slightly less
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  7. marty hill

    marty hill The Energizer Bunny

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    Man, if you love the bags it takes about 20 minutes to do the job right. It's not exactly a big problem. I'm about to order my 3rd set of jesse bags.

    Huck, thanks for that. I'm hoping someone knows both for sure,
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  8. ]I)Money

    ]I)Money D NOT I

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    I had it, a little:
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    A little bending took care of it, though. I like how clean it looks with them off, too:

    [​IMG]
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  9. earthroamer

    earthroamer Stuck in Pindadesh

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    I agree. The fact is, not everybody wants the racks (that's why they're optional). $65 and less than 30 minutes and your done.

    [​IMG]
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  10. springfish

    springfish Been here awhile

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    It seems to me, though I've been wrong before, that buying panniers without strap points is the same as buying an Hummer to drive around the city. What's the point? Any REAL adventure riding requiring panniers certainly requires lashing equipment to the top of them.

    Panniers without strap points are merely fashion accessories. Period.
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  11. earthroamer

    earthroamer Stuck in Pindadesh

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    People buy panniers just for touring too, not just adventure riding. The Jesse's have so much capacity compared to factory bags, a lot of tourers find them plenty big enough for their stuff.
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  12. marty hill

    marty hill The Energizer Bunny

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    This is very funny. The only use I've ever had for the racks is to use as a lash point for hauling a spare tire or two. Since I started riding BM's in 2001 I have done 220,000 miles in 14 countries. 99% on road with fashion statements attached. :lol3
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  13. springfish

    springfish Been here awhile

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    HA! You're obviously a much more efficient packer than me. Or you don't require a case of whiskey for your trips. ;)
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  14. spoof

    spoof on backwards

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    Just picked up my Varios. They were ordered with the bike, but I had to wait on BMW's new mounting system, as the old one was causing troubles.

    My scale is a bit, um, vintage, but I'm getting 14 pounds per bag and 6 pounds for rack and bolts/mounting hardware. So a total weight of 34 pounds for the BMW stuff.
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  15. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    My tent is too large to fit in side cases, so I put it and my sleeping bag (not rolled normally) together in a big duffel type bag and lash it sideways across the back seat or luggage rack using the side case lash points as anchors.

    And frankly, I don't want side cases large enough to hold my tent. They'd limit my ground clearance... :rofl j/k I just don't like the look or weight of super large side cases.
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  16. marty hill

    marty hill The Energizer Bunny

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    Spoof,

    Thanks for the info/guess they are very close in weight.
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  17. M N B

    M N B would rather be riding

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    I decided to go with the 36L Caribou system. I'm going to use their mounting system as I think it's more robust than the SW-Motech one and it's narrower. Later I'll probably add a Krauser 46L top case to the top rack, but not for now.

    I think the Caribous will be one of the most rugged pannier systems which, given my newbness to all things dual sport, is something I'll probably put to the test. :D

    I'll get some pics up eventually. Right now, it's 100% stock, except for the GPS mount and some wiring for a tender and heated gear. Getting a Corbin on Saturday, though... :wink:
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  18. JRWooden

    JRWooden Long timer

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    Has anybody cataloged which rack/frame offerings have some form of quick release fasteners so that the frames can be removed for urban cruising?

    I know the SW-Motech racks are quick-release... any others?

    Thanks!
    Jim
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  19. F800 Rob

    F800 Rob MotoInsight

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    Jim - the Hepco Beckers are also quick release. That's it to my knowledge.
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  20. jessehere

    jessehere Ridin'

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    ups tracking said that the 10 inch jesses weighed 24lbs including 3 cardboard boxes and minimal packing material.
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