F800GS Pannier design considerations.

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  1. RedneckRider

    RedneckRider Lost Again !!!

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    Anyone out there tried the Pelican sidecase setup from Twisted Throttle? Need input please. I am trying to buy cases that I can switch between my KLR w/original flat style SW Motech racks and my F800GS w/EVO SW Motech racks. Both racks have Givi adapters. Caribou cases will only fit the EVO racks.
  2. VagabondChef

    VagabondChef Vagabond Chef

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    I'm also looking for a symmetrical pannier system for my new F8. Plan on using Ortlieb Dry Bags. I was pretty sold on the Holan until I read about all the importing problems. Now I'm looking and looking for another alternative.

    Any suggestions would be great!
  3. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Agreed!

    and soon there will be another option from Giant Loop if you need more space:

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    These are the second generation prototypes. They offer about 60L of capacity and you still have the whole top open to put a dry bag. They are 100% waterproof and are tougher than any other soft bags I've seen...typical GL. They have a quick access outside pocket too.

    Also you don't need to have any side racks at all! That minimizes things that can bend and break, cuts out some weight and they act as impact absorbers (pack accordingly! :lol3).

    That being said they are not in production yet because they wanted to be sure they were as good as could be.

    another Dave
  4. bitwise

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    another Dave,
    Those GL bags look and sound really great. I don't have any bags yet and thinking these might be the ones! Any chance for more info on them? Pics, release dates, etc would be cool. You mention they are 60L which seems mighty huge to me, so maybe they stick way out and you can't tell from the pic above?

    yet another Dave
  5. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Hey Dave!...jeeezzz how many Daves are there? :lol3

    Not the best pic but gives you an idea:
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    I'll have to go and measure them.

    I'm really impressed with them! 60L of course is for the two of them combined which makes them 10L bigger than the GB (and then there's the open top area). I'll dig around for more pics but they are actually quite narrow, but not as narrow as the the GL Great Basin. Part of that is because they don't need a side rack to sit on and that's how I have them mounted here. There is supposed to be some news forthcoming on release date etc. at the EICMA show in November...

    Dave
  6. bitwise

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    Looks pretty cool Dave!

    I wish I could see the bags in person, maybe the SF BMW will be some help. Do you use a hard top case with any of these setups?

    I think a pelican or caribou case would be nice. I took a look at the previously mentioned twisted throttle setup. Has anyone tried it? Looks pretty cool, except I'm not sure how well it would hold up. Any suggestions welcome!
  7. bitwise

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    Dave,
    Do you think these are worth waiting for or would the Great Basin still be their flagship?

    60L feels like alot of room and I'm not sure I'll be carrying that much gear. The form is important, I'd like something that works the best for my bike (800GS)..

    Any thoughts?
    Dave
  8. Kainic

    Kainic Almost there

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    Any update on those GL bags?
  9. Jotaga

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    Can someone tell me what is that black plastic piece beside the lock of the topcase? (just over the "T" on the decal...):ear

    I just got the topcase today and was wondering what is that for...:hmmmmm:hmmmmm:hmmmmm
  10. toowheels

    toowheels on a mission...

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    Hey Dave!

    Sorry I wasn't paying attention...for a while...!!

    From what I'm hearing from GL the capacity of the "side panniers" has been increased a bit over what you see up above too. I still haven't seen the new version though. So to answer your question as best as I can:
    in size, capacity and price the new side panniers will be the flagship. They do leave the top somewhat open (again I haven't seen the production version) to have a pelican type case up top (I didn't). They do have some really cool features too.

    The form of them will still not really rival the Great Basin in terms of low profile and if you don't need the extra capacity (and I have seen a small hardbox mounted behind them, but you have to judge the space for yourself) then the GB is an awesome, sleek, stable, tough piece of kit. For me the GB and the smaller Coyote Dry Bag fits all my gear very well for any conditions...but I'll have to reserve the final judgement on the finished product...it's a tough one :wink:

    EICMA is Nov 15-18 so we should know soon! I'll post any info I'm able to as soon as I can!

    Thanks,

    Dave
  11. HighTechCoonass

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  12. Sutherngintelmen

    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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    Those look good. Drink holder :lol3

    Exteriors of mine wouldn't take to paint very well but am thinking of white plastidip on the inside to assist with aluminum scrub dust. Anyone try this? :ear
  13. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    I'm pretty hooked on my Great Basin, but the new bags from Giant Loop look pretty cool. For colder trips I pack a bit more stuff, so the extra space might be nice. And having the rack space open would make it easier to tote a long the Roto-Pax as well. Plus, they look a lot narrower than anything you mount on a side rack. Can' wait to see them in person.
  14. NotAllWhoWanderRLost

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    Jotaga,

    Forgive me if this has already been answered...

    The black plastic piece beside the lock is the pressure relief valve. It will rotate to expose a sealed hole and relieve the seal on the closed box when it's hot..

    :beer
  15. Jotaga

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    Many thanks NotAllWhoWanderRLost! I got answers on a specific thread I started about it, but thanks for your response!!
    :beer
  16. mustardfj40

    mustardfj40 Been here awhile

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    What's the size/model of your pelican topcase? Thanks
  17. gbtw

    gbtw Been here awhile

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    Looks like they are called the Siskiyou Panniers.

    http://giantloopmoto.blogspot.nl/2012/11/giant-loop-collection-2013-new-products.html

    http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/giant-loop-siskiyou-panniers

    http://www.giantloopmoto.com/collections/giant-loop-gear-collection/products/siskiyou-panniers

    price is steep but they look nice!
  18. NotSoPlainJane

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    I just bought a 700 GS and I think it is about the same as the 800 but lower......The BMW Vario bags cost me $760 .... BMW seems to have taken a page from HD marketing.....the new bikes come with the BMW mounts already on the bike....joy
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  20. JRWooden

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    Jane:
    At least a few of us think the Varios are not bad choices ... I've had a set for several years now

    1) While others say they are not robust, and I'll admit they are not as robust as some ... mine have held up well.
    2) the variable size is, at least to me, an excellent feature - summer I'm compressed, winter or end of vacation trip with gifts ... I'm expanded
    3) the mounting clips are break-away so tend to save the bag in a fall
    4) Bags are easy to get on and off the bike once you get the hang of it.
    4) the mounting racks are very UNobtrusive when the bags are off the bike

    Say what you will about the bags, but I the mounting frames are quite clever and don't destroy the lines of the bike when the bags are off....

    What has amazed me is that no 3rd-parties have ever built bag sets to use the vario mounting frames...