F800GS Pannier design considerations.

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  1. sturgeon

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    I'm currently talking to my architectural blacksmith pal to build me an auxiliary rack out of stainless tubing to make it easier to carry soft panniers. It's pretty simple, but I don't have the skills to build it. It'd just hook on the lower rail and bolt into the spot that holds the mushroom for the Vario upper mount.

    Not quite what you're talking about, I know, but I'd think it would be easy to adapt something like that to 3rd-party hard cases as well. Now that the 2013 models come with the Vario rack as standard, I'd expect to see someone start making these for sale. (Mine will be a one-off).
  2. vtbob

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    Nice bit of info. on bags and width. vs liters.

    FWIW when i went thru this 3 years ago, I ended up with Jesse due the criteria you have laid out.

    I bought Jesse factory seconds $750 with the mounts. (these had no damage but apparently had be used is some show and had HUGE Jesse decal all over them. A few minutes with a hair dryer got the decals off

    call the factory....maybe they have something
  3. JRWooden

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    Sounds good.............. send pictures when complete :clap
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    They Look pretty good :) Still have to mount a heatshield and rear bag platform thingy ( so i can also carry a baggage roll) but is nice so far :)
  5. EPMD

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    Mounting system and finishing touches on these Pelican cases is excellent. Interface with the Hepco & Becker racks is extremely positive. Narrower profile than many other setups.

    See the link for more pics!
    http://therosshallproject.blogspot.com/

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  6. JRWooden

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    What size top case is that - Pelican 1520 ? :wink:

    That's what I have now ... and wish I had one or two sizes larger...
  7. EPMD

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    Yes Pelican 1520. I actually wish it was a size or two smaller.

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    Since I never have a passenger, I have mine mounted farther forward to get a better center-of-gravity and also avoid the question motorcycles always ask:

    "Does this top case make my butt look fat?"
  9. hwa

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    Could you (or anybody else) please tell me what make/type these bright yellow soft bags (see below) are? Any idea what capacity they have?

  10. GeeK_InsiDe

    GeeK_InsiDe Moore Gas!!!

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    Old thread I know. Did you ever build your vario soft rack adapter. I have some ideas myself, but don't want to weld. I believe I can bolt something up and cover it with an aluminium plate.
  12. sturgeon

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    Not yet. Other life events mean it's on the back burner for now. I'm also not a welder, but I have a friend who does beautiful work. What I/we have in mind is pretty simple. Two tabs at the bottom to hook over the bottom Vario rail, and one at the top to bolt on where the 'mushroom' is attached, holding a rectangular hoop of tubular stainless.

    Dyslexics untie!
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    Exactly what I had in mind. Great minds think alike. I'm going to bolt a set up this week if wifey will allow it. Gonna use angle iron, some square tube and an aluminium plate. All bolted. I'm shooting to replicate the kriega adventure platform. With rotopax mounts on both sided. I will then strap wolfman bags and rox strap a couple dry bags to the top of them. This will be very modular. I love the look of the bike without bags and with the vario racks. Plus they came with the bike. I really like the vario bags for day to day town use and such. Then when it's time to hit the bush or take the cook on a trip, I can put the home made racks one water rotopak, one gas rotopak with wolfmade medium duffle on the luggage rack. I will also put them on with no bags when I go offroading to protect the tank and plastics.
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    AK Smitty Self life coach

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    I know about ever question here has been asked on side cases but I like answers specifically for me! :evil

    I have the BMW aluminum pannier set up. I crasehed in Guatemala and they have never been totally square since. Still waterproof and one broken palstic piece that is replacable. Also after some off road drops they tweak a little more each time. I dont expect the cases to be crash proof but these seem to bend easy.

    My issues with my BMW cases are this:

    1. They are easily tweaked or bent. Able to be bent back but never really the same.

    2. They are too damn WIDE!

    I am looking for something a little more durable and more narrow with similar capacity. My bars are 36" wide and I would like to be near or less than that for lane splitting out of the country.

    Right now I am looking at the Jesse 9" Safari. I have heard they are more durable and they are spec'd at 35" wide.

    My concerns with them are: similar ground clearance to my current cases? I want that for dirt and I don't want them to drag in corners like the long rectangular pelican cases do on some bikes.

    No place for hooks or straps on the top? I can easily add this but I am surprised they are not there? or are they?

    Are they a little tougher than the BMW cases?

    Any input is appreciated. Convince me and for sale soon some used BMW cases!!!

    Thx
  17. B_C_Ries

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    What is the height and length of varios? and the BMW adventure panniers? There is really good information about width here but height and length also matter,
  18. TBickell

    TBickell And away we GO !!

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    I have the Safari's and I really like them on my 800. They are about 35 inches wide but they don't look it. The quality of the mounting pieces and the bags are very very solid and while they have not been crash tested yet I know they will hold up better than the BMW Vario bags that came with the bike. Those broke after one get off. I ride with guys that have the BMW hard cases on their bikes and they all want to switch to the Jesse's after they see mine. I picked mine up at the Jesse factory here in the Phoenix area ( where I live) and installed the racks myself. Can't say that it was hard but it's a full afternoon and a 6 pack as I remember. They are water-proof and I have tested that feature many time. The design of the inner top part of the bag is great and holds clothes or just about anything with the racks that come with.

    It's a great product.. made totally here in the USA and backed my a good guy who owns and runs the small company.( altho they are moving to a bigger building so they must be doing well)

    Just my .02
  19. AK Smitty

    AK Smitty Self life coach

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    Thx man thats the first testimonial from someone with them on an 800 GS that I have heard first hand. I didn't realize that they were in the PHX area. Sounds like a great excuse for me to ride from TN to PHX and leave the bike at one its many homes around the US.

    Are you riding much off road with them? Cornering aggressively? I assume my center stand will continue to drag long before the Jesse bags.

    Thx again
    Later
  20. J&K

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    While attending Rawhydes riding school in September I talked with all the guys there who had Jessie's. A lot of them are serious off-road guys. Everyone I talked to said they had other brands and switched to Jessie's for durability reasons. I know when I go pickup my bike in a couple of months I will be stopping by and picking up some new safari panniers. Good luck with your decisions.