F800GS Pannier design considerations.

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  1. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    I'm stuck at work for the next 24hrs.... I'll post them up hopefully on Tuesday!
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  2. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    Ok.. I can't seem to get my photos up so I'll just post a link to my web album. Maybe someone can help me out...

    http://picasaweb.google.com/James.D.Nunez/BMW#

    I'm reasonably happy with the end results. I'm a little irked that I didn't get pefectly straight. It's really barely noticable but I can see even if no one else can. They did end up a portly 44.5" wide and I'm going to try and make 'em a little bit narrower on the wife's bike.

    When we picked up the two bikes I knew it was going to be pretty expensive getting them both outfitted seeing as I would have to buy 2 of everything. I figured I could save some cash by making some stuff myself. I know I wanted top loaders and the 1440s fit the bill. They can be had for about ~$115/ea shipped from Case Club, IIRC. The Happy Trails racks were $255 and thier universal mounts were $50. I think I spent about $100 with McMaster-Carr for various bits of hardware and aluminum for both bikes. I could have easily cut that in half if didn't order extra stuff for 'just in case' situations. So I'm into this for about $585 per bike.

    I searched this forum and several others to find how people were mounting 1440s. I was a bit surprised to how many people were grinding away massive amounts of the plasic ribs to make a flush surface to mount to. I didn't really think this was the best approach.... those ribs are there for a reason. I ran across this post ( http://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21429 ) over at Stromtrooper and was inspired by stevet's design. (thanks, steve!) I went with 1"x1.5" aluminum bar stock and mounted it horizonally, routing out small amounts of plastic to allow for a flush mounting surface. From the back side of each bar I drilled and counter sunk hardward to perminately affix the HT universal mounts. I drilled holes through the box and drilled and tapped matching holes in the bars. The lower bar is made to be perminately mounted. The top bar is loosened from the Pelican case by two knobs in side the case. If you loosen them to the last few threads there's enough play to slide them off of the rack so now I have tool-less removal!

    I'm not completely done with this set, yet. I want to make a doubler on the inside of the box to help add a little rigidity. The other thing I want to do is machine some material off of the aluminum bar stock to make them lighter. Right now it's a bit of an overkill. Lastly, I'm going to weld the HT mounts to the bar stock so I don't have to risk those lugs coming loose.

    So.... whatdya think? :ear
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  3. DiabloBlanco

    DiabloBlanco Intl' Hops Inspector

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    Anyone still twisting their brains around panniers should def check out the Jesse's, just ordered mine and they're doing them in black for me as a special request. Things look sharp, able to slide forward and back to adjust weight distribution if riding solo or two-up, and at 37" and 90L have the lowest inches wide to liters to fill ratio of any case... Hell they're skinnier than the MM with the special exhaust and hold more AND are over a grand cheaper... just my two cents.
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  4. johngil

    johngil Reseda, CA

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    Just how wide is that set up?
    I can barely split lanes @ 36". That looks huge!
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  5. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    44.5". You even quoted it... :deal

    I know they're a little wide but I don't need to carry around that much crap every day. I've got a tail bag for everyday use. They'll mostly be used for campin' and I don't anticipate doing any lane splitting on fire roads.
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  6. Frostbit

    Frostbit Is it cold in here?

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    I just finished installing a set of Jesse bag and it's post #59 on this link.
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414027&page=4

    The width ended up being 35" and I augment the storage capacity with tank panniers and between the two I can ride/camp two up for months. The down side is that I have far less money left in my pocket then you.

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    I also went the extra mile and sprung for the laptop rack.

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  7. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    Great setup, Frostbit! I'm really trying to save money where I can. We're planning a 45 day trip this summer from MA to AK and up the Dalton and I still have a fair amount of outfitting to do. I still need to purchase two comm systems, two skidplates, two sets of handguards, two sets of crash bars, and two top plates! $$$ (sigh)
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  8. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    If you order all of it from one place, they might cut you a deal. Or see if they have any returned/slighty used gear. Never hurts to ask!
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  9. JemezMtns

    JemezMtns Been here awhile

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    Hey Frostbit....
    What size jesses are those? 8" or 10"?

    Also, what tank panniers do you use?

    I got my f800gs in december, also yellow, and I like the way the jesses look.
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  10. Frostbit

    Frostbit Is it cold in here?

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    They are the 8" Jesse Safari. I think that the tank panniers are the 28 liter bags by Sun Mountain Touring Company out of Salt Lake City.

    (corrected from my late night posting of wrong info.)
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  11. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    I thought the rounded ones were the Safaris.

    From the Jesse site: "The F650/800 bags come in two sizes; 10" Odyssey II and 8" Safari (more rounded)."
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  12. Frostbit

    Frostbit Is it cold in here?

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    mY bAd...I just looked on the cover of the instructions and it had Odyssey but you are correct they are indeed 8" Safari bags. The tank panniers are made by Sun Mountain Touring Company and they're the 28L.
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  13. AirDoc

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    Great thread! I thought I'd add my photos of recently purchased aluminum adventure panniers. Yes they are expensive, but they are really cool. Even though they are wide, in reality it's only a difference of a few inches between all panniers. The height is an important factor to me for adventure riding. I don't want my feet getting caught while paddling. The Jesse's are a nice bag, but I completely trashed mine on a 650GS single on the continental divide 2 years ago. Luckily I was unscathed, but the Jesse's were essentially irreparable.

    My guess at volume on the 800GS panniers is that they are a few liters smaller than the 12GS ADV version because of some extra cutout on the tank fill side. But the difference isn't huge, maybe 5 liters? Either way they are substantially larger than the vario's and the mount is much nicer. Total install tie on these is about 45 minutes (really, no kidding). That included removing my tail safe. And the TT aluminum rack still works. In my haste I didn't weigh everything, but the cans are really light (probably lighter than the varios and I'm sure lighter than the Jesse's. The rack is pretty heavy. I'm pairing mine with my trust tailsafe. I use the tailsafe only for commuting and will use the big cans for shopping and trips. My 800GS is also my daily commuter.

    One big advantage of the BMW panniers that I haven't seen mentioned is same key. I like having one key for my luggage and ignition. It just makes life easier to have fewer keys to muck with. I also think the 22+ inches of clearance (unladen bike/bags, and off center stand) is an advantage over the Jesse's. But the decision was tough for me. The same key system and ease of taking the cans on and off pushed the decision toward this system for me.

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  14. DiabloBlanco

    DiabloBlanco Intl' Hops Inspector

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    Very nice. Definitely looks the cats pajamas.
    By the by, where did you get that nifty little moto dude sticker? Looks a slight bit better than the ADV Dude sticker guy...
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  15. AirDoc

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    The moto dude is from my local dealer (AS Cycles in Roseville, CA). $5/pair. It was the only GS version I could find on the rack and it said it's an 11GSA. Not sure if they have more.
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  16. Wildman

    Wildman In my castle

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    New panniers from Touratech:

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    There's lots of bits and pieces to attach to them.
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  17. Lindeberg

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    Has anyone seen the price for the new TT Pro-panniers?

    Probably not cheaper than the "original" Zega...
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  18. swolf

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    Yes, can't seem to find any info on the Zega Pro cases. Price and availability?
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  20. Wildman

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