F800GS: Then I wanted some driving lamps - VisionX

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Sydney Rider, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. bxr140

    bxr140 Flame Bait

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    The slot works on my bike. :deal

    I think that "molded plastic" in this picture looks more like a rubber fender washer, if that matters.
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  2. WoodWorks

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    D'oh! You're right, bxr140. Thanks for sending me back out into the garage to check on that!

    David
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  3. Sydney Rider

    Sydney Rider Been here awhile

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    Mark and David,

    Oh yes... that is the rubber washer that helps with the headlight bounce (I assume) and will move as BXR140 suggests. It's the rubber washer you lose when the headlight bolt falls out - but that should not happen anymore as the bolt is held captive by the lamp, but you can already imagine what happens when it does come loose.

    So you are both good to go - enjoy your lamps (whoever you bought them from) and let the conversation about which lens works best begin.... because I read another posting here on ADV yesterday http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10236335&postcount=1 and there were some interesting comments about the different lens patterns.

    I will be interested to see what you both think.

    Tony
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  4. WoodWorks

    WoodWorks House Ape

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    I'll post a report, Tony. I've got the elliptical (45° x 15°), which I'll mount on the right side, slaved to the ignition, and the 10° spot on the left side, slaved to the high beam. I had a separate switch for the aux. lights on my old bike, but I don't see any point in that anymore. The elliptical will help to give me a little more conspicuity and hopefully light up some of the suicidal deer we have in abundance around here, and the spot will help me with those times when I need to reach out and touch someone.

    David
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  5. Sydney Rider

    Sydney Rider Been here awhile

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    David,

    Same thinking as mine.... except we drive on the 'wrong side of the road' so mine will of course be reversed.

    As I wrote previously, I have both on the high beam line and have yet to check on the legality of having a second 'after market' lamp running at the same time as the low beam on the same level as the low beam... I seem to remember something about it not being allowed but I have been too busy to check.

    We are supposed to have a switch here so I used one and I used the relay because my friendly dealer told me that it would void my warranty if I didn't and I had electrical issues.

    Tony
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  6. 1B1M5W0

    1B1M5W0 GS Adventurer

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    Right you all are about that being a rubber washer !!! :clap I went out in the garage last night, used a small flat bladed screwdriver to "shimmy it free" .... and then I was able to slide the whole headlight pod forward that 1/4" that I needed to mount the U brackets !

    Lights are now all mounted up, just have to wire them. :wink:

    Thanks much,
    Mark
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  7. drofwaves

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    FYI,

    I ordered the "Denali" kit (Vision X) from Twisted Throttle. Just got an email with an anticipated ship date of 8 Feb.
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  8. 1B1M5W0

    1B1M5W0 GS Adventurer

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    Oooof, guess I got mine just in time. I ordered mine about two weeks ago, placed order over the weekend, the lights shipped out Monday and I had them Tuesday. :clap

    It's a good little kit from Twisted Throttle .... worth the wiat. You will like them.

    Mark
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  9. Sydney Rider

    Sydney Rider Been here awhile

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    Just to comment that I am back from just over 1000klm of riding over the last three days and apart from having to clean the lens' every now and then (about 60klm of dirt with roadworks included) the lamps stayed in the one position and worked 100%.

    I did change the point of the spot again very slightly but with myself and the luggage on the bike or just with me the lighting was excellent.

    Not enough night time riding to make a real decision yet about whether or not the lamps make a huge difference but even now I think that the difference I do see more than pays for itself.

    Tony
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  10. drofwaves

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    They must have been effin' with me. The lights showed up and its time to wire and mount.
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  11. WoodWorks

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    I finally got my VisionX LED lights mounted. Went for the 15°x45° flood slaved to the ignition switch, and the 10° spot slaved to the high beam switch. I want the flood on whenever I'm riding for extra conspicuity, and the spot on whenever I turn on the high beam, so I didn't install any extra (and IMhO unnecessary) switches. If I ever need to trouble-shoot the lights, the disconnect plugs are within easy each.

    Anyway, here's how they look. Flood on the right side of the bike to light up the suicidal deer on the side of the road, and spot on the left side of the bike.

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    Here's what they look like from an oncoming driver's point of view. Low beam and flood:

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    And high beam and spot:

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    I rode out to a nearby narrow dirt road to test them out. I shot all of these pictures with my camera set on manual exposure to keep the results consistent, using a 40mm lens which approximates the normal viewing angle of the human eye.

    First, low beam only:

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    Add the VisionX 15°x45° flood to the low beam:

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    High beam:

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    And finally, high beam and the VisionX 10° Spot:

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    The lamps draw only 10 watts each, so there's no worries about wringing the alternator's neck. And unlike HIDs they fire up instantly. I think the results speak for themselves. These things rock. I'm a happy camper. :smile6

    David
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  12. Dieselboy

    Dieselboy Journey not Destination

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    Man! That rocks! :super

    I might just grab another set and copy that setup.
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  13. sturgeon

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    Nice :thumb

    How did the wiring go? Two relays? Some other magic?
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  14. WoodWorks

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    I picked up a couple of fused, single harnesses with relays from VisionX, and had them wired them to the battery. The Twisted Throttle Denali harnesses are doubles, and I wanted the two lights (1 flood, 1 spot) separately controlled. There was some snipping involved, because the harnesses come with toggle switches (which I didn't want). But the installation was pretty straight forward. Sorry, I didn't take pictures. I figured Sydney Rider had pretty well covered that.

    David
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  15. The Griz

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    Nice WoodWorks!:thumb
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    Wow! Appreciate the post WoodWorks!
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  17. Sydney Rider

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    David,

    Do you have the time to take some photos with only the Solo(s) lighting the road (I simply covered the headlight with a jumper) so that I can see where your aim point is for both High and Low Beam.

    It looks to me like you have your Spot lower than I have mine because I see a different pattern on the road - mine is using the F800GS headlight for the near and mid, the Elliptical for the very near and the Spot for distance. Your Flood is perfect in my opinion... the existing Low Beam doesn't fill close but now the Solo fixes that.

    In your photo, High beam / Spot, it looks like the Spot is actually filling the area near the top of the existing High Beam pattern with some fill further away.

    I'd be interested to see what the Solo's look like by themselves because it would help me with my placement (which I still don't have right yet).

    Tony
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  18. Dieselboy

    Dieselboy Journey not Destination

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    Did you consider tapping the hi/lo beam switch for any of the VisionX play?
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  19. WoodWorks

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    Sorry Tony, but we're in the middle of an Oregon winter event here, so I don't have the opportunity to get more photos right now. :D

    I haven't yet had the chance to fine tune the aiming of the lights. I think during the installation process I may have knocked the stock lights a little low. Once the weather clears I'll see about making some improvements. But I'm pretty pleased with this rough approximation.

    David
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  20. WoodWorks

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    Not sure what you're asking there, Diesel. Please clarify. :scratch

    I've got the spot slaved to the high beam switch. And the flood comes on with the low beam whenever I fire up the bike. It's a "no decision" setup.

    I didn't want to have to wire in any superfluous switches, because I can't conceive of any scenarios where I wouldn't want the flood on with the low beam, and the spot with the high beam. Or any of the variables in between.

    David
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