F800GS vs Renault Espace

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by GSFREEK, May 4, 2012.

  1. sysie

    sysie Been here awhile

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    Hang in there mate, similat thing happened to me 18 months ago... Car turned right infront of me and I hit it at about 60km/h.. broke both ankles, hospital for 10 days, surgery and then wheelchair for 3 months before the rehabilitation and phisotherapy could start... Cound not ride my bike for 8 almose a year after the incident but I am glad to say that I am back on it and it is just as much fun as before.... :D

    Dont rush to get back on the bike but don't think about giving it up now either... focus on your rehabilitation and make those decisions later :clap
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  2. Droptop50

    Droptop50 Been here awhile

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    Damn that sounded familiar, minus the serious injuries. As a "victim" of a person doing a quick u-turn, I wonder if I could have done anything different to avoid the wreck... As strange as this may sound, I appreciate my accident now, almost a year later, for how it has changed me, my riding style, and most importantly, my level of focus while on the road.

    Heal well, ride again!
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  3. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    Narf, very sorry to hear. Now you can prepare your revenge and sue the sh!t out of him :D freakn' bast*rd. Please keep us tuned of your health, when you are getting better and riding again.

    but at least the TT crash bars are still attached to the frame :wink:
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  4. Robus

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    I'm hearing about more and more accidents like this. There's another thread here about a guy whose R1200RT was wrecked by a u-turner. Definitely something to be alert for.
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  5. Josh69

    Josh69 Uhhh

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    Well hope you continue to get better.

    How about the U-turner: were they parked/stopped by the side of the road beforehand or did they do a rolling U-turn?
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  6. killurtv

    killurtv free range moron

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    I hope you heal up fast, it looks like a really nasty crash, glad you are still alive!! I witnessed a u-turner crash last winter, two cars involved. i walked up to the u-turners window asked if she was ok, when she replied she was unhurt, I told her it was the stupidest thing I had ever seen. I have no doubt you feel the same way. Heal up fast.
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  7. 390beretta

    390beretta Long timer

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    I absolutely wish the OP the best and hope you heal well and will come back to us as a rider.

    Having said that: I want to express some opinions that may not be popular.

    #1 You must/should accept that when you ride a motorcycle you're much more vulnerable than someone in a cage, which means that your mistakes cost you a lot more in physical pain and money.

    #2 While your conduct may not be in any way the cause of the accident....you still suffer the above; it's a consequence of your choosing to ride a motorcycle. (Not "fair", but I think we all learned that life is not necessarily fair, probably around age 10)

    #3 A question: Please be honest; How many of you always slow, at least slightly at intersections and "scan" actively before proceeding? Come on, be honest!

    I fear and think that a lot of us don't ride with the right mind set. Unfortunately, I think that a lot of us who commute on a nearly daily basis, tend to fall into the "cage driver mindset".....Oh, they'll see me, they'll obey the traffic laws, they'll not pull out in front of me, "or in the case of the OP, "of course this idiot won't U turn in front of me) etc. etc.

    I don't want to be critical and have a lot of empathy for the OP. But, I would like to hear his answer to this: (Given your recent tragic experience, what would your thoughts be on what you might change about your street riding strategies?)

    Again, I do not mean to be critical, rather helpful, if possible.

    I ride in Phoenix, AZ daily...one of the most "lethal" cities to drive/ride in. Not one of the most accident prone cities, but one in which many of the accidents are "fatal". That's because the speeds are high, even on surface streets and that the freeways are, well, like the autobahn in the minds of many. Not to mention the "mindset" of a lot of distracted drivers who are on cells, texting and all the usual bullshit. Nearly got run over the other day by a woman who was on the phone and pulled out in front of me, in a parking lot, in spite of my Hi Viz summer jacket. How the hell can some people drive without being on the phone??? Totally pisses me off!

    Again, I mean no criticism the OP, but would like to hear his thoughts on the above.

    Absolute best Wishes to him!
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  8. GSFREEK

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    @BERETTA:

    I understand what you mean, but I think i have a pretty defensive riding style. I am constantly scanning the situation and do not take it for granted that people will follow the rules/have seen me coming. I slow down at every intersection and where there are cars parked next to the road, i always look to see if there are people in it, ready to do something stupid. This time however, i didn't see that bastard sitting and he turned in front of me way to closeby with no chance of avoiding the hit. I was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.. I could have riden 30km/h on a 70km/h road, but then i would ride my bicycle :cry
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  9. mapuda

    mapuda Crash Tested

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    Sorry to learn of your accident. I hope you are on the mend and will ride again soon. Apart from being rear ended at a stop; the left/U turning cagers are what injures/kills most of us. That and effing Deer.

    Back in '08 Sport Rider columnist and Author (Sportbike Suspension Tuning) Andrew Trevitt was paralyzed when a teenaged driver pulled a U turn on the Angeles Crest. Zero time to react and he was a much better rider than I will ever be. Glad to know that your injuries though severe, are hopefully not life changing.

    I always keep in mind that people driving cars are homicidal maniacs out to kill me. Luckily I have been disappointed in my estimation of their mindset but that doesn't mean I trust them to do the sane/thoughtful action.

    Get well soon and get back on two wheels.
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  10. 390beretta

    390beretta Long timer

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    GSFREEK,

    I hear you and don't doubt your assessment of the circumstances at all. I know there ARE situations that are just simply unavoidable, even with the most careful and defensive riding possible. Wish you the best outcome possible for your injuries.

    Someone mentioned that in your country there are no lawsuits for this kind of situation. Is that true? If so, how are things settled equitably for the damage to your bike and you medical expenses/pain and suffering?
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  11. GSFREEK

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    I don't know what he was saying. Offcourse this goes to police court where they will decide who is at fault. The loser's insurance pays everything to the winner. bike/medical costs etc..
    My medical costs and salary loss is covered by some insurances i have, winning or losing. The only thing at stake here is my trashed bike.
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  12. gunslinger

    gunslinger diabolical schemer

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    Crap, its embarrassing enough that a Renault did that!

    :rofl

    Seriously, feel your pain. Be glad you didnt splat the side of a H2 Hummer and are still alive.
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  13. Thinc2

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    GSFreak,
    sorry about the accident. I actually think we in Europe are much more used to scanning intersections and being aware of cars pulling into our lane, especially from the right.

    I hope you manage to heal up well. I shattered the bones in my wrist while riding a dirt bike six or seven years ago. Two big metal screws were my companions for quite a while. Eventually it healed and I am 90% back to normal with my wrist.

    Wishing you good thoughts and keeping my fingers crossed for your recovery.
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  14. ray h

    ray h Been here awhile

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    Hope you heel up fast and complete.
    Thank you for posting your experiences, I much prefer learning from others to learning from my own experiences and Ive seen alot of "u-turn" accidents posted recently. Thats a little disturbing because those can be a bear to avoid and even harder to predict in time. But thanks to threads like this, I think I stand a better chance at avoiding them because Im more aware.
    I know its said alot but it bares saying again "ALWAYS have a way out". Traffic is a fluid thing, its always changing, as one door closes, another opens. become a good chess player, looking four moves ahead will keep you out of checkmate.

    On another note, dont be too hard on the other driver for not showing up at your bedside. Its been my experience that most people just dont have the guts to accept their mistakes face to face. Not being able to face their failure is pretty common.
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  15. mhpr262

    mhpr262 Banned

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    Norifume "Norick" Abe was also killed that way, and he one of the best MotoGP riders ever.

    Sad how one of the surest signs of the start of the motorcycling season is the number of new threads appearing in face plant ... :-(
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  16. ShadySmurf

    ShadySmurf Does Own Stunts

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    Good to see that you are sounding more positive man. Good luck with the healing, and getting your bike replaced.
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  17. GSFREEK

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    Butcher works are done, zippers installed :wink:
    http://imageshack.us/g/717/img0089px.jpg/

    When i "win" the case , insurance will pay 9000 eur for the bike. (that includes 1000 eur wrackage value, wich i will be selling on my own for +/- 1700 eur)
    So hopefully i will have a total of around 9700 eur. A zero-operation i guess. My insurance company told me the court is a year behind with work, so it could take a while -_-

    @ Josh69: He was parked next to the road.
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