I am kicking it around, all these bikes are in the same neighborhood, price wise. I have a BMW R1100RL and the BMW dealer says he can easily sell it and would love to have it on the showroom floor. He wants to trade for the F800GS. I like this bike. It has ABS, but it is over $13k without bags on it. The seat looks like it would be very uncomfortable. It's thin and narrow and that is just the opposite of my backside. I am also somewhat concerned about the reliability, as BMW has taken their knocks in recent years. The Tiger is way cool. I like the fit and finish and I hear the motor is great. The one I am looking at does not have ABS though, and I don't like the Triumph luggage at all, but there does not seem to be a lot of aftermarket luggage available for this bike - but there is Givi, and I like Givi. This bike is a new 2008 model, but the dealer doesn't seem to eager to come off the price. I like the Ulysses because it is American made, and so am I. It comes with luggage and a big comfy seat. Heated grips are standard, as well. Never having to adjust the valves is a plus, as well as the belt final drive. I hear the stories about engine heat and fan noise, and again I am concerned about the reliability. Then there is the VStrom. Great price. You can get the 650 version with ABS. Reliability is not a concern, and there are tons of after market goodies available. But some say "Suzuki" is Japanese for cheap suspension and brakes. Oh what to do?