F800GS with 30" inseam?

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by maximuski, Nov 28, 2009.

  1. EnderTheX

    EnderTheX Dirt Rider

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    "I would not ride it, whatever works for you" is a crappy answer. Just because some of us are short and not skilled enough to "donut" a bike around at a moments notice doesn't mean we are idiots for not lowering the bike...

    Is there no benefit to an extra inch of travel in rough terrain?
    Is looking like a "dork" at stop lights enough to cause you to compromise your suspension?
    Is struggling to turn around on a hill enough to compromise?

    I choose to ride with the crippling scenario of not being able to firmly plant both feet wherever I go because I like to know I have the suspension even if I am too much of a noob to be able to fully use it.

    EDIT: Sorry tmex this is no affront on your belief and after thinking about if for a couple minutes I can see a value of turning around quickly and being comfortable when stopped. BUT seriously... what is the suspension there for if you can't use every mm of it?...
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  2. omnivore

    omnivore SuperSportTourer

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    As an agressive sportbike rider, I have always resisted the tempation to lower a bike, becasue I am unwilling to loose the cornering clearance. Muffler and pegs will ground out earlier if I were to lower it. BAd enought hat I have to replace toe sliders, let alone a muffler. I have always just toughed it out and tippy toed it. Some bikes I could only tippy one foot (94 ZX7)
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  3. BillyD

    BillyD Been here awhile

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    Better not do it in your driveway, else Ami will get mad at you!!
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  4. tmex

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    True. I am a good boy around the house. Your donut is still visible in my driveway and she gets annoyed everytime she walks by and sees it which is why I leave it there.

    Many of the replies above equate lowering with compromising your suspension. Would the suspension be even better if you raise it an inch? There is nothing magic about the suspension travel other than it should be as long as possible given all the other constraints associated with the motorcycle.

    All of life is a compromise. There are endless arguments on this forum over which dual sport is best for this or that - compromise, compomise, compromise,... There is no perfect motorcycle. For me, taking an inch out of the suspension is a compromise I am willing to make given how I use the motorcycle. If others think differently that is their own conclusion based on how they intend to use the motorcycle, their riding style, and their ability. All I am saying is that for some people lowering makes perfect sense, and it certainly does not ruin the motorcycle. It is completely and easily reversible. I am not advocating it as anything but a sensible option for people not comfortable with the F8 seat height. There is no reason not to be comfortable on the bike and have fun if you have a 29" inseam. Another option is to become very good and ride like a ballerina. I think having to Captain Morgan the bike is dangerous and sooner or later you will have more than a simple tip over. Just my opinion.

    Jeez, if you guys are happy with it great. The OP asked if he could ride the bike with a 30" inseam. I guess there are lots of folks who are just fine with it, and maybe he will be too. At 31" and 6' I was not happy with it and I did something about it. I did not molest a child or steal from a handicapped person. Lay off already.
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  5. Bike4Fun

    Bike4Fun Smooth IS Fast

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    As I've said, it depends on what "your" definition of riding and off road means. I could care less what I look like turning a bike around. I don't need to look all spiffy in thousand dollar gear and be able to do a donut to turn around. So it will take me a few minutes to dismount turn the bike around and go back the direction I came.

    I think what many people were saying here is that a 30" inseam is not a deal breaker for this bike. As long as you know what your skill level is, where you will be riding the bike and know that you will occassionally drop it then get the bike and have fun.
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  6. Maddaddy

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    I find it easy enough to turn it around when it's on it's side.:lol3

    Though it worked better with the 1200:D

    Get the bike you won't be sorry.

    and pay no attention to all the bickering. it's just ADVrider.
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  7. tmex

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    Good advice. It is a kick ass bike. You will love it.
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  8. maximuski

    maximuski Don't Follow Me I'm Lost2

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    It seems this thread was an interesting one. Actually I'm so glad with all your diverse replies, this is exactly what I wanted, to hear as many different opinions as possible. In my country we use to say: "discussion is knowledge's mother" :gerg

    In summary, I think it's quite clear that my 30" inseam is not a problem (at all) to go for the F800, Whichever option I choose to compensate the lack of height, such a low seat, playing with the suspensions... or a legs surgery :D

    Thanks a lot for your replies, I plan to order the bike soon so I'd get it by next April...

    Cheers! :kbasa
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  9. MoToad

    MoToad Been here awhile

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  10. Rodenbarr

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    A good set of crashbars and a can of black spraypaint ;)

    Because with a 30" inseam and a 450lb dirtbike, you're going to tip it sometime. Take lots of pictures of it when it's new and not dinged up!
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  11. Bucko

    Bucko In a parallel world

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    Not a bad idea (the crashbars and spraypaint), though I'm doing fine with a 30.5" inseam (just to be annoying :D) on a 68" body. Unless you have legs like an NBA star, you're probably going to put a foot down and find air at some point. Like when the front wheel's on a rock or you're on a sidehill. First line of defense is be situationally aware to prevent that. Plan B is slide off and plant a foot. If necessary, you can let the bike down from that position without breaking an ankle. The better you learn to ride, the shorter your legs can be. At this point, mine are just long enough.:wink:
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  12. Saki_N_Ice

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    Does an 800 lie almost flat on its side when dropped?
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  13. Bushwhacker

    Bushwhacker Dirt, Sweat & Gears

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    Not if you put the right crash bars on :evil :D -

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  14. Maddaddy

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    and some pretty highway pegs. :rolleyes
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  15. scottpoley

    scottpoley Been here awhile

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    Years (OK, decades) ago I saw a short kid racing an open MX and his father had to hold the bike up at the starting line because there was no way he was going to touch on either side. Damn, he was fast and won the moto going away.
    However, anyone that recommends a high CG/seat height bike to any novice is doing them a great disservice. If someone is scared to death everytime they stop, because they can't easily touch, they will find a reason NOT to ride.

    confidence is king.
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  16. Sutherngintelmen

    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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    There is a guy that does Dakar who needs a running start to mount his ride - my hero :clap

    Don't take this as expert - I'm anything but. I do ride both a 800gs and a 690e. They are each a bit high for my 30" britches. Stops find me on my right ass cheek with left foot flat on the ground and right foot on the peg.

    My experience is that bike weight and center of gravity are more important in control and confidence than height. The 690e is taller than the 800gs but I'm happy to billy goat up stuff on the 690e I'd pass by on the 800gs.

    Most important in my own mind is that the bike responds quickly to input. I find that I can muscle the taller 690e around much more easily. The trade off is tarmac. So I choose based on the day.

    I'd say buy the 800gs - you'll be fine with the 30" I put 10k on it this year and it went from 'huge' to 'glove.'


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  17. Pangit

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    5' 4" 29" inseam, low seat, thick soled boots, no problem. Just be mindful to slide to the right to plant your foot flat on the ground with the left still on the peg when you stop. You will get used to it. Fit AdvSpec crash bars, Barkbusters and Jessie bags and you are good to go. You will plant your foot in a pot hole sometime or get caught in slow traffic, then you will suffer a tip over. Dont worry, the slight damage will be minimal at best if you follow my advice above. Will provide photos if you require.
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  18. Saki_N_Ice

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    I was under the impression that the 650 had a lower center of gravity than the 800. Sitting on them in the shop doesn't necessarily give a true picture. Can anyone confirm?

    I'd love to see the pix! I'd hate to get pushed into the 650 just b/c I'm short. My current bike is a Kawi 650 and I' like to experience a "true upgrade" when I buy the new ride.
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  19. Bike4Fun

    Bike4Fun Smooth IS Fast

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    Why would you leave your left on the peg? If you stop you should have already downshifted into first. So if you are on any type of incline you are using your front brake to keep the bike from rolling? In the mountains where inclines average 5% or more its nice not to have to control the brake and throttle at the same time to prevent from rolling backwards.

    Just curious cause I leave my right on the peg where I have control of the rear brake and just hold the clutch in. Lights don't last that long that I can't hold a clutch lever for 30 or 45 seconds!
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  20. omnivore

    omnivore SuperSportTourer

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    Saki-He said 690---as in he is comparion his 800GS to a KTM 690, not BMW 650.

    Yes the BMW 650 willhave a lower centre of gravity, since it is basically a lower version of the 800, with shorter suspension travel and less ground clearance.
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