Fatal bike crash in Hillsboro, OR

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Closed Casket, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. Closed Casket

    Closed Casket Jaded and Faded

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  2. Scott_PDX

    Scott_PDX Leisure Engineer

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    Dang.

    RIP Rider.
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  3. RalphyDo

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    Closed Casket........The irony of it all!!



    All joking aside, sorry for the family that is left behind...
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  4. Wired

    Wired Been here awhile

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    That sucks. RIP rider.

    I'm certainly no accident investigator, but the damage on the PU looks like a head on. If the truck turned in front of the bike, wouldn't the damage be on the side of the PU, not a big ass V in the front?
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  5. Kjharn

    Kjharn Hrmph?

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    He probably saw him too late, and straightened out in hopes of avoiding him.
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    SHIT!!!!' :kboom





    RIP, unknown Buell Rider. :norton

    It brings years to my eyes to hear of this.

    It also raises my ire, doGdammit!!!

    Does any jurisdiction anywhere on this planet teach that the left hand turning idiot is the number one cause of motorcycle fatality?

    Fucking idiots.

    My best defence, other than vigilance and an itchy brake hand, are my high beams

    I have ridden over 5 years w/ them on, day and night.

    Have never had a single person flash their lights at me for it.

    I do keep my headlights aimed a little lower than normal though.

    Any time I "test" my high vs low beams in a windows reflection, I am very happy w/ the results.

    Of course, a couple of PIAs (or airplane landing lights!!!) would also be of service...

    Hate to say it, but when I go, I'd prefer it to be on my bike than any other way.

    Quote me on that at my wake, YFFs.

    Happy Trails, unknown Buell Rider. :norton
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  7. Iwantabikesobad

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    Rip
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    R.I.P. Best daytime riding lamp: DDM HID 55 watt 3000k. They have an yellow orange glow that everyone comments on outstanding visibility.
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  9. Closed Casket

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    Yes I have very bright PIAAs on my BMW that I think I'll keep on all the time now...
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  10. Offcamber

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    Very sad.....RIP
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  11. dvwalker

    dvwalker Working to ride

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    this crash hit me pretty hard :cry, as fate would have it I was casually on my way to work and drove past the fatal crash scene as the emergency first responders began arriving. I knew this was a very bad situation when I witnessed the bike wreckage. Conditions were dry and clear, no good reason for this accident to occur, another cager not paying attention. This was the second vehicle accident two days in a row at same intersection at the same time of day.

    may your soul rest in peace brother...
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  12. Judotrip

    Judotrip Torqued to the Max!!

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    Seeing the shattered version of my bike brings shutters down my spine... RIP

    Drivers that cause such destruction should be without license for at least 5 years. You cannot take back death...
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    A left turning driver may be the most common multi-vehicle collision, but that doesn't mean it's the most way of crashing a motorcycle. Possibly in this case, but [in Oregon] it's more likely to be the rider's fault, off by themselves.

    Someone said dry and clear- which is not how I remember yesterday, nor what's in the photos- what I see is lots of fog that the rider would have been coming out of (southbound along the east edge of the airport). Downhill, around a corner, lots of trees. Not much visibility? At a glance two headlights on a Uly would look like a car a long way off.

    Someone poke DAKEZ and wake him up for collision avoidance advice; meanwhile, best to all families and friends involved on both sides.
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  14. Bill Harris

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    RIP our fallen comrade.

    But remember, DRLs are not a shield or armor, they just help those that will see you to notice you. Always ride alert!

    --Bill
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  15. No False Enthusiasm

    No False Enthusiasm a quiet adventurer

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    The second photo in the article looks to show significant fog lingering.

    RIP

    NFE
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    Always make eye contact. Its not 100%, but it has saved me countless times in the 50 years I have ridden. I rode most of my life before I went to rider school. Only too learn that I didn't know shit. Yes, a little noob chick taught me more in four hrs. than I thought possible.
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  17. StupidDogCoffee

    StupidDogCoffee IGNORE THIS TEXT

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    R.I.P.

    Very sad. This is just down the street from me and I have only been riding for a week. Definitely going to look into headlight modulators.
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    Obviously not the time and place for any sort of pissing match re: details...


    vintagerider, I have noted your suggestion for yellow DDM HID 55 watt 3000k,

    and will definitely look into it/start saving.


    StupidDogCoffe, thanks for the headlight modulator suggestion; I'd love to have that going

    contemporaneous to my high beam!


    luckyjr, that's also a great suggestion; I do make eye contact.

    As a stupidly over-polite Canadian, I often find myself nodding my thanks to the left hand turner

    who did NOT turn in front of me.

    Bloody ridiculous!!


    Dwoodward, yes, of course you are right that the left hand turner is the most common

    multi-vehicle accident, and not the number one overall cause.

    My bad.


    As far as the conditions go, it is true that the two pics show different amounts of fog.

    Of course, there was a time lapse between the accident and the photographer's arrival.

    The pick-em-up-truck's windshield appears free of rain to me, but I note water flowing down

    the grade behind the bike.

    Previous rain, perhaps?

    From my time in the Pacific North Wet, that's about as clear and dry as you can hope for outside of summer.

    Not really clear nor dry, but at least it's not snowing. :norton


    dvwalker, it's always traumatic seeing any crash up close, especially a motorcycle crash for us motorcyclists.

    However, hopefully a life lesson for everyone, albeit an enormously expensive one.

    You note that:

    "This was the second vehicle accident two days in a row at same intersection at the same time of day."

    Makes me wonder if this yellow blinking light is the best idea?

    I know intelligent lights are prohibitively expensive, but I understand that roundabouts are actually

    1/10th the cost of new stoplights.

    Roundabouts lessen congestion, pollution from idling cars, eliminate left hand turns altogether,

    and sure are more fun for us riders!

    Although their use is slightly on the rise up here, turns out pedestrian groups oppose them

    due to difficulty crossing.

    Wonder how the Brits, French, Omanis etc deal w/ that?





    One more time, RIP, and Happy Tails, unknown Buell Rider.:norton
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  19. corndog67

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    You can blame the driver, say lock him up for 100 years, no license for 5 years, whatever, but you've got think that it couldn't have been malicious. Some of you are ready to fry the driver. Well shit, a couple of times over my lifetime, I have pulled out in front of bikes, I truly did not see them. And I've been riding for real close to 40 years. It was an accident, could've happened to any of us, at any time. From both sides of this accident.

    It would be a different story if he was texting, drunk, or did it maliciously. But it doesn't say anything about that. As it is, the guy has to live with it for the rest of his life. For most people, that is a terrible thing to live with.

    Be safe out there.

    My condolences to the riders family.
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  20. Old White Truck

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    This is just terrible.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    My wife was a ½ mile away on the same road and pulled over as the first responders went past.<o:p></o:p>
    FWIW, my wife said that at the time, where she was (1/2 mile down the road) there was some fog but it was not thick.<o:p></o:p>
    As dvwalker already mentioned, there was zero rain on the day in question. Hasn't rained for months (as strange as that is for here).

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