Favorite Premix Oil and Ratio

Discussion in '2 smokers' started by craydds, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. Valvesarefortoilets

    Valvesarefortoilets Adventurer

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    Fun fact: my dads good friend ran a 1976 Hercules 175gs at 16:1 ratio with castrol r (ya, crazy) and it never failed the old piston port. Even better is that after 15 years of it sitting in his shed caked in mud me and my dad revived it in about 20 min by popping out the old bing carb bowl and dumping the green jello'ish liquid inside and putting some fresh premix in (32:1). The 16:1 also save the tank from any rusting inside! that crazy ratio was good for something :thumb


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  2. craydds

    craydds Long timer

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    I pulled the motor out of my 1976 YZ400. A old-school mechanic in Alamogordo,NM is in the process of overhauling the motor. The service manual calls for a 14:1 mix for the break-in runs (possibly a 12:1 mix for the first start-up, don't have the manual in my hands, mechanic has it).
  3. Valvesarefortoilets

    Valvesarefortoilets Adventurer

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    So how to you guys feel about Walmart brand outboard premix oil? :D

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  4. anotherguy

    anotherguy unsympathetic

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    What are you going to run it in?
  5. Valvesarefortoilets

    Valvesarefortoilets Adventurer

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    I run it in everything. Lawnboys dirtbikes weedwackers. All 32:1
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    TC-W3 is a tough standard. It's good oil................but it's not motorcycle oil.
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  7. Valvesarefortoilets

    Valvesarefortoilets Adventurer

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    Well I've found it works great with a splash of Castrol r

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  8. KX50002

    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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    We've been running blendzall at 32:1 for as longas I can remember, haven't had an engine failure yet. Plus it smells really good!
  9. dhallilama

    dhallilama Long timer

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    it does smell damn good...

    i've been running motul 710 for quite a while, but have been tempted to switch back to blendzall or klotz super techniplate, partially because of the smell.

    the 710 has an odor that i think is faint, but the wife hates. the other day i had a friend's bike in the garage with a castor premix, fired it up... she asked if i was making french fries.

    say what ya will, but a happy wife is definitely on the positives side when choosing an oil :D
  10. KX50002

    KX50002 NooB, my ass

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    I put some blendzall in everything for awhile, even 4 strokes... just for the smell! But it's a pricey air freshener LOL :lol3
  11. PSchrauber

    PSchrauber Been here awhile

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    Only for those of you that like exhaust gases with nice odor. I just found out that my favorite 2-stroke oil brand now delivers also 100% synthetic 2-stroke oil with strawberry odor. Very nice, I have orderd a liter as my last bottle of oil (semi synthetic) just coming to an end.

    The full synthetic is Ipone Samourai Racing, (1% to 2% recommended by manufacturer).

    The semi synthetic I have used so far is Ipone Synthesis 2.
  12. Valvesarefortoilets

    Valvesarefortoilets Adventurer

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    should just find yourself some castrol r. Good smell there :thumb



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  13. jacblack

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    I have a Ossa trial 280cc and the oil ratio recommanded by the manufacturer is 110:1 and I use it with no problem. My KTM 300 xc recomand 60:1 and I use it. The Ossa cranckshaft bearings are lubrified by the transmission oil so it need less 2 stroke oil and maybe the fact that it's a direct fuel injected engine lessen the use of wasted oil.
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    Scootern29 Been here awhile

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    Did you happen to read the previous 30 pages of this thread? It is quite entertaining to say the least.
  15. dhallilama

    dhallilama Long timer

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    premix, religion and politics; all guaranteed to start arguments. :D

    i've run everything from 20:1 castor to 100:1 synthetic... in the end, i just like motorcycles. and boobs. and bacon.
  16. spokester

    spokester Been here awhile

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    I am insanely addicted to mixing gas and oil. I even have an extensive hoard of two cycle oils of all ages and descriptions. Most recently I tapped into my hoard of Kawasaki K-2 40 wt. 2 cycle oil from the 1970s and mixed it 16:1 to break in my 175 cc Puch Allstate twingle. After break in I switched it to 25:1. Here in East Germany 50:1 premix was available at the gas station until a few years ago. I run 50:1 Addinoil in my MZs and Simson, 64:1 Golden Spectro in my ATK 260 (Rotax), 40:1 Polaris Gold Fire in my chainsaw and leafblower. 32:1 Golden Spectro in my OSSAs, Bultaco and Montessa and 20:1 Yamaha racing 2-T in my JAWA 350. My old outboard gets 50:1 Pennzoil outboard oil. Heck, I even premix with Marvel Mystery Oil for my old Harlieghs.

    I hope this answers all questions, thanks!:norton
  17. Valvesarefortoilets

    Valvesarefortoilets Adventurer

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    Agreed!
  18. concours

    concours WFO for 44 years

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    The reason for the 20:1 ratio specified in the factory book is, at the time it was written, Yamalube two stroke oil was "PRE-DILUTED" as marked on the can.
  19. Mr. Carts

    Mr. Carts Been here awhile

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    I run 20-1 in my IT465.

    I feel that if the factory said 20-1 that is what I will used.

    The benefit of used modern oils at the factory 20-1 ratio is getting the best possible lubrication.

    Two stokes like my IT465 "Haul Ass and Suck Gas" I use Lucas TW oil which I buy by the case.

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/luc-10115/overview/
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