First Aid Kits

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by eap, Jul 29, 2002.

  1. Law Dawg (ret)

    Law Dawg (ret) Been here awhile

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    You may be an expierienced MD or what ever, but you are not the only one who knows what they are doing. Give me a combat corpsman/medic any day I am trashed and possibly 75 miles from services. I do not whip out my skills(admittedly limited as they are) for just anything and if help is available, I"ll wait (if I can). But what do you expect one to do with serious arterial bleeding or sucking chest wound during the time it takes for an ambulance to arrive? I am a Deputy Sheriff and often encounter situations that require help NOW. Some of us do not have the luxury to wait. It would be nice to never have to do CPR on a bleeding puking victim or keep blood off my nice uniform by waiting for a professional.

    Works in theory sir, but the real world for some of us isn't theoretical. This string is for Adventure riders, do the math.

    RWLWFWH
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  2. patch29

    patch29 Surly Rider

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    I really like the courses offered by Wilderness Medicine. I was certified WFR and WEC, time to go back and get re-certified, but the knowledge is still there. Their courses are good for the adventurer since they focus on improvising with what you have available. I would like to take their WEMT course if I can swing that much time off.
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  3. Red Bull

    Red Bull Been here awhile

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    Funny, I was (replenishing) my "kit" and was noting how small it actually is. (Ortlieb first aid) but it's packed tight... and mounted on the tail bag for ANYONE to access quickly.

    Your remark remind me of the "medics" that would come after a crash at the track... I'd scramble to my feet to get out of there before they come after me with that NYLON BRUSH.. Ohhh I still feel the pain of the brush as they scraped out the rocks form my hips... shoot. Now I just leave the rocks in my hips... to match the rocks in my head. :huh

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  4. LVR

    LVR Been here awhile

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    I keep my personal and professional lives separate, so we won't compare credentials, but let me tell you that I live at the absolute opposite end of the "theory-real life" spectrum.

    As far as the "math" goes, I was there for the creation of this branch of "math", I've contributed to the evolution of this "math" for decades, I teach this "math" and I live this "math" on a daily basis.

    Yeah, I've done the math and I'm the one that gets to try to salvage victims not only from their initial injuries, but from the errors of well-intended, "frequently wrong, but never in doubt" passer-bys.

    As far as I'm concerned, this thread is dead.

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  5. figment

    figment Been here awhile

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    good.:rofl :1drink
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  6. eap

    eap El Adventurero Solitario

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  7. HarveyMushman

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    Just like the poor rider who will bleed to death on the side of the road because his friends listened to some doctor's advice about waiting for the ambulance?
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  8. Law Dawg (ret)

    Law Dawg (ret) Been here awhile

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    Hopefully if one of us is ever down and bleeding when you pass by you will bless us with your help and massive knowledge. Hope you don't decide to keep your business and personal life apart at that point. As to a dead string: any string can be dead for anyone as soon as he does not click on it. Careful of the door when you go,perfeser, as it may strike you on your six.

    This string has been good 411 on improving equipment and skills in first aid and I appreciate the contributors taking the time.

    P.S.
    I'm not ashamed of my profession and so do not hide it. Know when Y'all ride with me I've got your back and hope for the same in return.

    Thanks Y'all
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  9. RandomGS

    RandomGS Long timer

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    Just as a note for the unwilling: My mother dropped dead on a sidewalk 13 years ago. >45 minutes of CPR by a well trained husband and wife team. Supoposedly unheard of, but she survived.

    Still drives.

    Now has the best life-saver kit - an installed defibulator (ACid) unit, She went into V-fib twice sin ce then - both this year. Didn't even pass out.

    Anyway, try to save a life, if you can.
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  10. doc riverz

    doc riverz anatra di seduta

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    No, that is my car kit. My moto kit fits in one large Ziplock bag.
    Thanks for the kind words.




    The thread is never dead...
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  11. doc riverz

    doc riverz anatra di seduta

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    Really? You sure are opening minds and winning hearts with your sweeping statements. One of my friends is a medic with the Alameda County EMS Agency. For fun he went on a large exibition to the South Seas a few months ago and was the sole medical practicioner on this trip for about 25 people. He had a very large kit and had additional training to go beyond the usual scope of practice of a paramedic. Should he have left the kit home because a "real" medical man like yourself was not available?
    Your statement has an element of truth. However, we are not talking about a couple of broken ribs a mile and a half from your local Level III Trauma Center. Sure, the Tx of choice there is a quick set of ABCs, correct a bad airway/breathing as needed and a quick ride to the ED/OR. We are talking about relatively long-term treatment for the street. You may be able to get by with less then optimal equipment but why bother?

    BTW, occasionally I've seen real paramedics play doctor along the side of the road when the pt would have been better served with a fast ride to the ED/OR. It is a matter of judgement. Judgement gets better with experience.
    Well, perhaps, but I'll bet even if he/she doesn't know how to use it someone who does will happen by.
    Gosh Mr. LR, we are so lucky that you deem us worthy to even talk to us. We are such peasants before your greatness.
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  12. doc riverz

    doc riverz anatra di seduta

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    Go mom!!! Way cool!!!

    This is why I'll try as hard on the peeps with no chance as I do on the ones that will probably make it. Every serious case is an opportunity to tune your craft to a higher level.
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  13. Law Dawg (ret)

    Law Dawg (ret) Been here awhile

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    I live by the words "No man knoweth his time." Also means I don't know his(or her) time either. CPR until I drop and glad to have kindred spirits here. You fire fighters, paramedics, corpsmen/medics, and ER personnel rock! Thanks for your dedication and care.

    P.S. I scored some first aid supplies from an Army medic buddy to add to the poor mans kit. Now the sanitary napkins are for backup only.

    RWLWFWH
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  14. Drivr8

    Drivr8 Old Dog - New Tricks

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  15. Sp4rks

    Sp4rks Been here awhile

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    Yeah, I carry a Medium Lifeline kit:
    1 HARD-SHELL FOAM CASE
    1 CARABINER
    1 FIRST AID GUIDE
    1 SCISSORS
    1 TWEEZERS
    2 VINYL GLOVES
    10 ALCOHOL PREP PAD
    3 STING RELIEF PAD
    6 ANTISEPTIC TOWELETTE
    10 3/8” X 1-1/2” BANDAGE
    10 3/4” X 3” BANDAGE
    1 KNUCKLE BANDAGE
    1 KNEE/ELBOW BANDAGE
    2 2” X 2” STERILE GAUZE PAD
    2 3” X 3” STERILE GAUZE PAD
    1 1” ADHESIVE TAPE ROLL
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  16. doxiedog

    doxiedog Been here awhile

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    In my tank bag is only a zip lock bag of,
    4 light duty fem. pads for road rash, and a roll of paper tape.
    Thats for every day rides,close to home.
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  17. Digasi

    Digasi Been here awhile

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    Mine is simple.

    band aids
    wrap
    gauze
    tape
    hand sanitizer
    tweezers
    pocket knife
    anti-bacterial stuff


    Figured if I need more then that I will be calling for help.
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  18. Downs

    Downs KK6RBI

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    I only carry stuff that I can use. It goes in my tank bag. This is just a general break down not specific.

    General meds such as Motrin, tums, insect bite treatment stuff like that.

    Stuff to stop bleeding. From general band-aids to Kerlix and CELOX Gauze to a CAT tourniquet.

    Stuff to immobilize injured limbs. A SAM splint and stuff to make slings

    Medical Shears

    CPR Mask (this is something I think everyone should have. I would be very hesitant to give someone from the general public CPR without one.)

    Burn Gel impregnated gauze. Good for not only burns (such as if a bike falls on you and burns your leg) but also sun burn if you get a little too much sun at a lake or something. I've only had to use this on cruiser riders :rofl
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  19. Mr_Snips

    Mr_Snips Husky BRAAAAAAAAP!

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  20. t6pilot

    t6pilot Been here awhile

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    Benadryl have given it out plenty for insect bite reactions
    Cayenne pepper ground, works wonders on road rash bleeding, really google it I have used it on myself doesn't sting stops bleeding
    Trauma pack of Cclot deeper cuts and puncture wounds
    Assorted pain relievers Aleve/Advil/aspirin
    First aid creams
    Bandages