First trip noob questions ! ( NORWAY )

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  1. Aldorean

    Aldorean Adventurer

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    Hello adventure people,

    I`m Michael 30 years old and i`m going on my first road trip this late spring.


    Now since i`m a very VERY insecure guy i want to challenge myself and throw myself in the deep not planning anny places to sleep or eat or what so ever.

    The questions atm :

    What do you people advise as route navigation ? i`m thinking about buying a Garmin 660LM but if you people say a mobile phone ( i`m getting the newest HTC one in 3 weeks ) is good enough i`m in to listen why.

    How do you people think about what to pack ?
    I`m doing it on a V-Strom 650 with a original Suzuki suitcase set and have room on the passenger side for bags. How many clothes do you take with you normally ?

    I`m planning to go there for 2 to max 3 weeks is that to long for a first time ?

    What kind of tires do you people have on your bikes when roadtripping because i`m thinking about Heidenau but i dont know if they are realy tarmac friendly or not ?

    TY for the answer pre-hand and i`m looking forward to see the discussion open up.

    P.S. anny advice on a good tent for a *not yet advanced camperboy* ( never pitched a tent myself unless you have a dirty mind )


    Greetings Michael.
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  2. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Buy a good tent. Most likøy you will run into rain:) i have a Vango Thempest and its small enough for 1 person camping and keeps the water out.
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  3. Wildman

    Wildman In my castle

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    A map.

    2 x shirts, 4 x pants, 1 x trousers, 2 x socks, 1 x fleece.

    Metzeler Tourance.

    My tip; take lots of money.
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  4. RTLover

    RTLover Long timer

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    If you're really that insecure, do a few one-two nighters to get the hang of things. Agree with Wildman on good maps, but I'd do four shirts and two pants. :wink: GPS is a back-up in case your map flies away but don't use it for route planning because you'll become a slave to it and you'll want to be spontaneous about where you go. Any make of tire will do as long as they're in good nick. Rain gear is an essential, keeps you dry and will also help staying warm. Camping is another story altogether. Stay in hyttes or cheap hotels until you understand camping.
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  5. francs

    francs Been here awhile

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    Norway?
    Lots, lots of money (and credit card is a must, you can't get gas without it at some places, and to pay toll when needed) .
    Camping in spring in Norway?
    I wouldn't, get a "hytte" you need a heating in the night.
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  6. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Hehe its not realy that cold :rofl already we are above frezing at nights. Late spring should mean atleast 8-10c at nights. Last year april and may was the best months we had that year.
    Creditcard is nice but only places you need it to get gas is at the unatended petrol stations. Dont think i ever saw a toll road i could not pay with cash. Motorbikes normaly dont pay toll anyway.
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  7. hensmen

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    Hello Michael,
    first just take a map, ore you will miss the nice roads, instead a new tent. Best to build up is a Salewa Mark II, aluminium instead fiberglas, one part system, packs very small.
    The tyres are not important on your bike, beside they have to be new, cause off the tarmak. Take a Trangia for cooking, good weather clothing and boots for hicking. Don`t forget pictures and perhaps, when your german is good, take the "Felbinger" travelbook, has very good advices and nearly all camping grounds. Take something with you for fishing.
    Hans,
    Sorry no advice for clothing, most off the time it is too much, you can do washing on the camping.
    If it is too cold, ferry Bergen Newcastle and back, nice alternative to return.
    Never forget to climb the Prekestolen. Hans in south germany
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  8. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    There is no ferry from Norway to UK any more. Not for a few years :(
    If you want to ride on gravel roads you will need to do some planning as they can be hard to find.
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  9. francs

    francs Been here awhile

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    Yes, if it don't rain. On a "panoramic" road the credit card was only way to pay toll.
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  10. hensmen

    hensmen Been here awhile

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    Hello Johnny, can`t believe it, the missing ferry, cause the boat from Bergen to Newcastle helped me from the freecing rain in late september to the smoothe one on the green island.
    Beside, Michael there is a very good site, concerning traveling with small luggage from "Svendura", nice pictures and well written.
    http://svendura.de/alle_reiseberichte.html
    One good thing in Norway, you can buy all things you have forgotten.
    Have a nice trip, Hans
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  11. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    Only rains if its not cold:rofl maybe its only norwegians that think like that. Im a all year camper so maybe i dont see the problems. But do buy a good thent, one that keeps the rain out.

    Was that panoramic road private?
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  12. MariusB

    MariusB Gonnabe adventurer

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    Hi, Michael!
    What parts of the country have you planned to see?
    I really think you should visit the vest coast. Lots of nice places, fjords, mountains - has it all!
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  13. francs

    francs Been here awhile

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    Probably, I had perfect weather, only one day of rain, but that day temperature droped to 4°C (end of june) .
    Don't know if it was private, we went one way and returned through tunel. :dunno
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  14. pip_muenster

    pip_muenster curious

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    Lots of good advise here already.

    Do a test run and camp somewhere for at least one night, so you'll see what you need / don't need. The last 'cheap' chance to buy gear would be in Germany, f.e. you'll be passing by the HQ of globetrotter.de in Hamburg. Last chance for afforable beer, too.
    :dutch
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  15. JohnnyTh

    JohnnyTh Been here awhile

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    I agree totaly on doing a test camp on one or even better two nights. 4°C or less is no problem if your tent, sleepingbag and sleeping pad is good enough. Put some money into the sleeping pad and get a good one. If your pad is to thin you loose a lot of body heat to the ground. The sleeping bag dont give much insulation to the ground. When i camp during winter i have thick pad i use on snow and use the same sleeping bag.
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    V Saarela Been here awhile

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    I remember Turtagrö road where my only option was paying with creditcard? First time I ride this road, about ten years ago, I had to put cash in a envelope.

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  17. Rauven

    Rauven I like the cold...

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    Hi Michel,

    Using HTC phone for navigation. Google maps works well, but remember it's aGPS, so most often You will need a data connection to find the position. Finding gps signal without it can be pain in the ass. So consider data roaming costs or buy a local prepaid.

    I drive a DL650 to with my girlfriend and there is absolutely no problem with fitting into the original boxes. Usually except the camping equipment (tent, selfinflatable sleeping mat, blanket, sleeping bag, small camping kitchen with a tiny travel frying pan/pot) i pack 4 or 5 tshirts, 1 or 2 pairs of jeans, 2 pairs of sweatpants, some socks. For driving in norway even in summer remember to pack at least 2 pairs of wool underware + wool socks (evt. some other type of thermal underware) because in the mountains the temperatures still can drop to nasty 4 degrees and rain. Usually I pack in iterations. I prepare version one stack, and iteration after iteration I remove stuff from it. You can always wash Your clothes or in case of emergency buy new (if you want to go all spoiled rich person ;) ).


    I think 2-3 weeks is just fine to do all the must see. So driving the west coast, Geiranger fjord, the troll road, atlantic highway, Preikestolen, Lofoten, maybe Nordcap (worth more as an achievement than the views). It's a normal country people live in, so you can find all of the stuf there is in civilised Europe ;)

    Good tent. Select a tent based on the weight and size when it's packed up. The lighter and smaller the better.
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  18. Mortis (the Brit)

    Mortis (the Brit) Seeker of the truth

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    is the HTC an android phone? If so, download Navfree. It's brilliant. I have a Samsung S3 and it has a built in GPS receiver so you don't need a data connection. Which is nice.
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  19. Tom-Nor

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    I would recomend to take the boat from Hirtshals in Danmark to Larvik in Norway. Then head to Stavanger via Suleskarsvegen http://www.suleskarvegen.no/content/kart-map
    From ther you can drive Hardangerfjord to Bergen and from ther to Stryn and Geirangerfjord and then the Trollstigen(troll-ladder/road).
    Thers a lot of options and great roads to exerience. But the average speed is not gona be high and thers a lot of places to stop and take pictures, so i would advise to take it day by day. Thers ferrys going to Stavanger and Bergen from Hirtshals.

    I whould pack som duct-tape and tire puncture fix, super underwear.
    Put everything you need and whant/think you would pack for the trip, remove what you cant fit and dont realy need and then remove alitel more.
    The most important thing you have to pack is a big fat smil and a posetive atitude :-D
    Android phone is probelby good enough but buy a proper road map so you can check that the GPS is taking you on the right course.

    I live 4 hours north of Bergen and 3 hours from Geiranger, if you have questions or need help just ask :-D
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  20. Tom-Nor

    Tom-Nor Wannabe Adventurer

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    Her is my suggestion, start and finish in Larvik. But you could start in Larvik and finish in Bergen/Stavanger/Oslo to take ferry to Danmark or wich way you like.
    Betwen point D and E is Trollstigen(troll-ladder/road).

    Got a litel messy after point I (Lærdal tunnel), but i think it is becouse the road is winter closed. Ther is a 24.5km long tunnel wich you can get som cool pictures, but is much more funn to driv over the tunnel on the old roads.
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