Fixing Hurricane Creek

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by Stromin'Nroman, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. Stromin'Nroman

    Stromin'Nroman Been here awhile

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    There has been concern about some yahoos in 4x4's and on quads making a mess of the Hurricane Creek area, potentially restricting access to this popular destination for local ADVriders and the general public.

    Well, the Western North Carolina Alliance is partnering with a contractor and the US Forest Service to close some of these recently blazed trails in the area to reduce silt flow into these trout waters.

    Anybody interesting in lending some help can check out this link:

    http://wnca.org/volunteers-sought-for-water-quality-work-closing-illegal-roads/
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  2. Wallachian Spikes

    Wallachian Spikes Long timer

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    It's hard to imagine such a thing as "illegal roads" in a free country (Hitler would be proud) but, that seems to be the way America is headed.

    Never the less if we want to keep the tiny bit of riding we legally have left, we should be active in projects like this & make it known that there are responsible riders out there.

    Hurricane creek flows past Loretta Lynns, which I'm 45 miniutes west of. If there was any work to be done in my area I'd help but, the Pisgah National Forest is a bit of a trek for me. Hopefully the locals who will be hurt the most by land closures in that area will step up.
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  3. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

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    there was a similar problem in the George Washington NF, cutting new trails, and so on.

    then the FS busted a bunch of those responsible, arrested, fined, and all the vehicles and equipment confiscated. that got the word out right quick.
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  4. TanasiRob

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    yeah........ quads :dllama :umph


    I am conflicted about the Quads as they really do chew up a trail and are frequently used like a bull in a flora china shop, but there have been times when on two wheels in the middle of nowhere that they are the most welcome thing you can ever see.


    So would the volunteers be assisting in the closing by collecting samples or taking clean samples with them to turn in later :evil
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  5. late-apex

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    Welcome to the new Amerika! BTW thanks Obama, now Balsam Mountain Rd. is closed due to budget cuts, how about kicking a few deadbeats off welfare and use that money to keep the road open.
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  6. ihatefalling

    ihatefalling Let it roll

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    I couldn't believe that when I read it but.... just verified it to be true.
    Thanks for passing that along.
    And that totally SUCKS !
    So disappointed in our national leadership.


    To the OP - so it seems the Hurricane Creek Road issue is just some folks cleaning up some "bandit" roads??? That is, places where 4x4s have blazed in new trails or mud holes? If that's the case, then I think it's a good thing they are cleaning it up (sending a message) to the trail blazers. I just hope the blazers are smart enough to realize the (more than likely) irreversible closures they may cause.

    Boy I tell ya, if the huggers try and close Hurricane Creek Road, the entire local community better get involved. Hot Springs could really be hurt economically if the closed HCR.
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  7. Mossy_Crk

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    I just rec'd an email from the project coordinator. The work days have been moved to April 29-30.
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  8. Stromin'Nroman

    Stromin'Nroman Been here awhile

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    That's why I posted this.

    I'm not sure exactly what volunteers will be asked to do, I probably won't be able to make this weekday event.
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  9. TanasiRob

    TanasiRob Squid Emeritus

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    Oh HELL!! I suppose I should have looked closer at the link.................
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  10. Mossy_Crk

    Mossy_Crk Fallen over

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    I'm intending to go on the bike to try to help the others there see that there's a connection between responsible use and motorcycles. If more riders were out helping restore and minimizing needless impact, the discussion would be less binary and more about sustainable use and how to promote it to the variety of users. Be part of the solution not just the problem.
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  11. ihatefalling

    ihatefalling Let it roll

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    Good on you. I'd come help as well but there's no way I can make that weekend. Would love to hear a follow up afterwards :clap
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  12. LtDan

    LtDan I'm going home

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    I would sure hate to see Hurricane Creek closed, in my opinion it is one of the best technical trails around, especially for the big bikes. Have noticed more and more quad tracks taking off of the main trail, as well as big mud holes they like to play in and well, the mud does go into the creek. Will try to make one day to help and spread the word around as well.
    More bad news, was riding on the Cherokee reserve last Tuesday, which I have since the mid 90's, and was pulled over, seems the Cherokee Band directors passed a law last year making it illegal for anyone that is not a band member to ride on this land. Always thought it was nice of them to allow this and would pick up some trash every time I went through. Again, the reason seems to be the quads making new trails anywhere they desired. I didn't see any new signs referring to this but the fine is $500, which he was nice enough to let me go as long as I passed the word around.
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  13. ihatefalling

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    Hey LTD --- Where you talking about there ^ ^ ^ ^
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  14. LtDan

    LtDan I'm going home

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    Great area to ride, or was. If you have ever been to Mile High CG, it is the roads going out of it. You could also access it from other roads heading up out of Cherokee towards the BRP.
    My son and I first rode up there in the mid 90's, didn't have any idea it was there. We were on a family camping trip and happen to have a couple of bikes in the truck, saw the trails, and at that time riding the area was allowed.
    Over the last few years though you started seeing lots of trash thrown around and 4 wheeler tracks going off in all directions so I guess that is what caused them to close the area, real unfortunate.
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  15. LtDan

    LtDan I'm going home

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    HC Rd. update. Went over bright and early this morning with the understanding the 29th and 30th we're the days volunteers were needed to help out.
    Didn't see anyone from the River Alliance, but there was 2 guys, they were an independent contractor working for the Forest Service, working on the road about a third of the way up, they said they didn't know anything about any volunteering. One was trimming back low hanging limbs along the road and the other was on a mini excavator pulling up big rocks and smoothing the road as well as cutting in some water breaks to ease the erosion, said they were going to do the whole road. I asked if they were going to rock it and they said no, so be ready for some mud next time you head that way as when the pull up the rocks there lies the mud.
    Anyway, seems there was a meeting and according to this one fellow there was overwhelming support to keep the road open, guess they have to cause there are multiple property owners that have to have access.
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  16. Mossy_Crk

    Mossy_Crk Fallen over

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    I emailed the contact from the WNCA Sunday evening and have called a few times over the last couple of days and never could get in contact with anyone involved in this project. Not sure what happened from the volunteer end of things but at least there's work going on. If I ever get any solid answers I'll post up again.
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  17. JoeWannaB

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    Dan,

    That really sucks! I used to ride all through the reservation. Some really fun roads and trails. Another FYI for everyone... Winding Stairs Road in the Nantahala Gorge is closed indefinitely with signs posted saying "No Motorized Vehicles." Rumor has it that it may get transferred to Swain County. If that happens, then it may reopen but the Forest Service will not open it as long as they have jurisdiction.

    I think I'm selling my dual sport bikes. :cry
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  18. Mtn Man

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    We all better work together or we're going to lose one of our special resourses in the area! Thanks to Lt Dan and others who keep us focused on these riding areas! :clap
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  19. LtDan

    LtDan I'm going home

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    Now Joe, lets not give up that easy. There still are plenty of places to ride and more to find. We all just need to work harder in representing our passion for DS riding and set a good example to those that don't understand what we do. Also need to educate riders on leaving no trace, some can ride through an area and not know anyone has been there, others feel a need to rip it up, make noise, etc.
    We should all try harder to stop and maybe pick up a little trash when riding, stop and talk with folks, and generally try to get along and be good stewards of this beautiful area.

    Dan
    PS Joe, lets go riding soon!
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