FJR1300 Thread

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Putts, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. G.R.

    G.R. Swimming Upstream!

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    Here's a my ride from last Thursday in Western North Carolina.

    Music (Artist / Track): Tremonti / Brains

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/52322663?badge=0" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/52322663">Transylvania County - Motorcycle Ride</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user4224783">G.R.</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
  2. bungie4

    bungie4 Frostback

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    Another nice one Georgia Roller! You not even in the hunt for lame-ass videos!
  3. HickOnACrick

    HickOnACrick Groovinator

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    So I am looking for a good sport-tourer.

    I want:
    - cruise at 85 mph with little wind buffeting and vibration
    - 35-40 mpg
    - hard luggage
    - easy to do my own maintenance/farkle

    I test rode a used FJR 1300 (about 25K miles) and a new Honda 2010 ST 1300. The ST was by far more comfortable, better throttle response, better wind protection, less vibration at 80-85 mph.

    Is this the general consensus on comparing these two bikes? I am really looking for an Sport Tourer with long legs as I will be traveling frequently from TX to TN.

    Most of my riding experience is off-road on KTMs, or on-road on a GS, and I would like to spend less than 10K.
  4. Jud

    Jud Long timer

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    I personally belive the FJR is "comfy" enough while offering a more sporting ride. Others might like the more comfy ST. You will have to figure where your wants reside but honestly, I don't think you would go radically wrong with either one as both will match the "wants" you listed. Having rode both, the Honda is the smoother of the two but the rest of those wants are pretty much equal.
  5. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    Most comparison tests in the magazines rates these two bikes as six-for-one/half-dozen-for-the other. That doesn't mean any individual rider won't find one or the other much superior, but most riders consider these two bikes as pretty close in the things you mention, perhaps giving the nod to the Honda for comfort and the nod to the FJR for performance/handling. The Honda also has come under heavy criticism at times for high speed handling issues and blistering cockpit heat. The FJR mostly solved its heat problems with the 2006 revision. I thought the ST13 high-speed weave problem was internet legend until I rode two different examples a few years back - both had super-spooky handling above 100 mph. For this reason, I'd never own one.

    The fact one bike had 25K and the other was new might have something to do with it too. I rented a 25K-mile FJR one time and found that it has much more vibration than my 20K FJR at home. Otherwise, it seemed the same, but the higher vibration levels really detracted from the ride.

    - Mark
  6. roadstar

    roadstar Been here awhile

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    Had an FJR for 4 1/2 years , handle bar vibes were always there. How about an ST1100 ??
  7. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

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    ST1100's have a gentle rumble, but like most V4's, it doesn't ever seem to intrude or get "gritty" like some inline-four vibes can get.

    By today's standards, ST1100's are down on horsepower and have cumbersome handling, but for the five years I owned mine, I thought it was almost total perfection in a large sport-touring rig. The ST13's never appealed to me nearly as much.

    - Mark
  8. chazbird

    chazbird Long timer

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    A K75S fits all the requirements of HickonaCrick's criteria. Easy 40+ mpg at 80. I got (50-53 at 70+). Hard bags, ABS, decent wind protection, essentially zero vibration. Get the K75C bars, a new shock, fork springs, maybe a different seat and you're set. Easily saving $5k or more over to $10k budget. Caveat: Forget it if you're going to ride two up.
  9. roadstar

    roadstar Been here awhile

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    Anyone here going on the ride to eat , in Bedford PA. See FJR forum for details.
  10. richarddacat

    richarddacat best jelly roll in town

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    +1 on the K75. A great bike for when the weather is too hot for the FJR.

    This is my Dad's bike and I have the above listed additions you listed sitting in my garage along with the stock "C" model setup.

    One day I'll talk him out of it. :evil
    (It's actually smoother than the FJR, just lacks the thrust of a jet fighter)

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  11. jabandsnort

    jabandsnort a mighty fly dancer

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    Just bought a new (to me) 2006 FJR after selling my 2006 BMW 1200GS. I have to admit, that BMW was an amazing machine, never let me down in the 51,000 miles I rode it. So why sell it then? Idk, bored I guess, and I've always wanted an FJR. Too many bikes out there ad too little time...
    I just picked up the new bike yesterday, and definately took th longway home. Too early for a definitive comparison, but here's a few initial thougts:
    The Good:
    - Less buffeting/better wind protection. As you'd guess from a fully faired bike I suppose. The FJR isn't perfect though, and truth be told at 6'1" with a 33" inseam the Yamaha touring screen that came on my bike is only really good at the lowest position. Need to do some screen shopping in the near future. No biggie though, I went through 4 on the GS to get where it was acceptable butnever great.
    - Oh what an engine. I have often said that more than 100 hp on a streetbike is overkill, and while I still sorta believe that I sure do enjoy twisting the FJR's throttle!
    - The clutch on the FJR is fantastic, so smooth compared to the GS's dry clutch.
    -Normal brakes! Always hated the overly complex servo brakes on the 05-06 models (obviously BMW dd too, as they were gone after those years) Might need some new pads though.

    The not so good:
    Mostly well documented stuff
    -Leg room. I did really enjoy the GS legroom, my hips and knees will be complaining onlonger rides.
    -Where's 6th gear. Not saying the FJR NEEDS it per say, buthow great would it be to haveon overdrive with that engine!
    -Acres of plastic to worry about.. comes with the wind protection I guess.
    -The shifting.. Some call the BMW agricultural, but mine shifted butter smooth, the FJR not so much. I see there's an R1 shifter mod though..

    Misc thoughts:
    -The FJR handles well for a big long machine, but that GS was amazingly nimble in the twisties, I'm gonna miss that..
    -Vibes? Both are really smooth bikes, just different frequencies. If the FJR had a 6th gear it would be better, but as-is the GS has the edge for me cruising at 70-80mph
    -Love, love, love twisting the throttle on the FJR! (said that already but it needed repeating.

    Happy with the swap so far, though there are trade-offs for sure, I'm stoked everythme I look in the garage. I can tell this is gonna be a good thing and I'm looking forward to being a part of this community.

    Pics to come!
  12. 20valves

    20valves Yamaholic

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    Get your suspension sorted for your riding on the FJR and you'll find it'll hustle right along on a twisty road.
  13. BruceWA

    BruceWA Been here awhile

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    Just picked up a 2013 model yesterday, Oh yeah!!!

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  14. jwdub

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    Congrats! Let us know how you like it and how well the cruise control works.
  15. scottie boy

    scottie boy Homebrew Guru

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    BruceWA, I would also like to hear your thoughts on the '13 FJR. I currently own a '12 Yamaha Super Tenere and a '97 Honda ST1100. I'm considering upgrading the old Honda for a more modern sport tourer. The new Triumph Trophy, the Kawi Concours and the new FJR are on my short list of bikes to consider. I would love to know what you think of the FJR in terms of comfort, smoothness, wind protection, etc..
  16. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    Wise move grasshopper.

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    Besides be'in smooth, comfortable, powerful, 'n handle'in good, it's the lowest maintenance, most reliable in it's class. :thumb
    If'n ya like ride'in much, yer gonna luv the 26 ta 30,000 mi. valve checks, 'n 250 mi. (Or mor?) tank range. Itz all 'bout the total package. :rayof
  17. BruceWA

    BruceWA Been here awhile

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    With ony 150 miles in the 2 days of ownership I am NOT an expert. BUT, coming from a 06 BMW K1200GT I do have some observations...OK, after many years of being BMW saddled I made the change to the FJR two days ago. Have had a number of BMWs and was very happy with the ownership and quality of them. My last was a 06 K1200GT which was sold to a long time riding partner. It had given my 54k of smiling miles. Have had the FJR now for two days and have accumulated 150 whopping miles [​IMG] . Looks like it is in the shop for the winter now. Cold and snow are not to my liking. [​IMG]

    The ergonomics are very good, the wind screen gives more coverage than I recalled from my last ride on a FJR, and the seat is wider in the front than I'm accustomed to. The handling is very good, it enters the corners easier than by GT did, but the suspension is much softer than I am used to, will have to make some changes in the spring. The controls are all logical and easy to learn and use. Now the power, well I'm being gentle during the break in period, but I'd say the GT was superior in this department and being that it was slightly lighter (we're still talking poundage here [​IMG] )the difference is notable, but still more than ample for triple digits and LEO attention.

    Rode the C14, looked at a Ducati MTS 1200 S Touring and found a couple of BMW K1300GTs but when it came time to buy I ruled out the Duc for several reasons, and the K1300GT basically the same GT I sold with more power, the C14 had more power and the screen worked very well. So it was actually a very easy decision to go with the FJR, having ridden them 3-4 times since they were introduced and the 2013 with its enhancements drew me in. Cruise control is great, the BMW spoiled me with this feature, cannot imagine doing with out at my advanced age and extreme laziness. [​IMG]

    So there you have it, my very initial impressions and really looking forward to next spring to continue my affair with her. [​IMG]
  18. Schumy[RO]

    Schumy[RO] Motographer

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    This is my '03 ABS(european version):

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    It's the best bike I've ever ridden. Quick, agile, confortable...a complete bike.
  19. straightrod

    straightrod Long timer

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    So what is the cool stuff that the European model gets that we don't get. side view would be cool if there are noticeable differences.
  20. Schumy[RO]

    Schumy[RO] Motographer

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    The european model got the 2004 updates(and ABS) in 2003. And I think my color(tehno-jade) was available only here.


    L.E. Does anyone know why fjrtech.com is not working?