For Winnipeg and the surrounding area!

Discussion in 'Canada' started by BOBMUNZ, Jun 6, 2009.

  1. BackRoader

    BackRoader Life Is A Hiway, Ride It.

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    Mark, I find the tank bag map pouce should allow me to see about 160 miles....that way I know where the next PEE Break Is.....:rofl
  2. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    As a (possibly frugal) KLR owner, you oughta know about THIS one (as long as you don't mind buying it across the border where it is 30% cheaper than in Canada)

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Classic-Accessories-Motorcycle-Tank-Bag/10802876

    [​IMG]
  3. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    Unfortunately cannot make Kingshead ADVLunch today. Have fun all.
  4. DrydenRider

    DrydenRider Sun Seeker

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    There is a balance between a GPS and a regular map on a tank bag. The biggest warning with both is getting distracted while driving.

    Distracted driving is so easy these days and can be catastrophic on a motorcycle. One quick look down at a map trying to figure your next turn can have grave consequences.
  5. PiffleMaster

    PiffleMaster Long timer

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    Hmmm... Unless you smoke along at 80 MPH (130 KPH), that's going to be too far between pee breaks for this boy. Certainly doable on the US interstates, but there'll be hefty fines in most of Canada with those speeds. :cry

    Guess I'll have to get a colostomy bag when I ride with you. :rofl
  6. BackRoader

    BackRoader Life Is A Hiway, Ride It.

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    Let me clarify.... 160miles of map view, gives one a chance to plan on out pee breaks... ( for those of you who are constantly sipping from a pot of coffee hanging from the handle bars :rofl)
  7. PiffleMaster

    PiffleMaster Long timer

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    Touchy. Err, I mean touche'. :deal
  8. bwokentoof

    bwokentoof Pollyanna Man

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    Can anyone here hook me up with an inmate or two who live near Churchill, Man?

    Not lookin for a date, more of a winter travel infrastructure question.
  9. KamikazeKLR

    KamikazeKLR Shorty on the 650

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    I have another question for all of you.

    I'd like to switch out my stock KLR rear brake bulb with a cluster LED one which is a million times brighter. I've had one guy tell me that's illegal. is this true?

    And I also want to switch out the 4 signal light housings with something less ugly and again, with LEDs to make em brighter.

    I have no idea where to look to find out what is/isn't illegal.

    Heeeeeeelp!
  10. 2whlrider

    2whlrider Fulltime laker

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    I put one in my KLR that I got from Happy Trails. I tried getting one from Dual Sport but their supplier dried up.
    As for legal, if it lights up when it's supposed to that's good enough for me. :deal

    Mine flashes two or three times before going solid to help warn people a bit more.
  11. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    Well let's see now -

    transport canada says this:

    http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulations/regulations-crc-c1038-sch-iv-108.htm

    "Lighting System and Retroreflective Devices (Standard 108) General

    108. (1) Every passenger car, multi-purpose passenger vehicle, truck, bus, motorcycle and trailer shall be equipped with the lamps, retroreflective devices and associated equipment required by <cite class="XRefExternal">Technical Standards Document No. 108, Lamps, Reflective Devices and Associated Equipment</cite> (TSD 108), as amended from time to time"

    Leads to -

    http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safevehicles-mvstm_tsd-tsd-1080rev4_e-688.htm

    TSD No. 108, Lamps, Reflective Devices, and Associated Equipment

    which says

    "S5.1.1 Except as provided in succeeding paragraphs of this S5.1.1, each vehicle shall be equipped with at least the number of lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment specified in Tables I and III and S7, as applicable. Required equipment shall be designed to conform to the SAE Standards or Recommended Practices referenced in those tables. Table I applies to multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, trailers, and buses 2.05 m or more (80 or more inches) in overall width. Table III applies to passenger cars and motorcycles and to multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, trailers, and buses less than 2.05 m (80 inches) in overall width."

    Table III looks like this

    http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/roadsafety/safevehicles-mvstm_tsd-tsd-1080rev4_e-688.htm#Table III

    Significant part is stop lamps -

    TABLE III: REQUIRED MOTOR VEHICLE LIGHTING EQUIPMENT

    All Passenger Cars and Motorcycles, and Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Buses and Trailers of Less Than 2.05 m (80 inches) Overall Width

    <table border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr valign="middle"> <td valign="middle"> Item
    </td> <td>
    Passenger cars, multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, and buses

    </td> <td> Trailers
    </td> <td> Motorcycles
    </td> <td> Applicable SAE standard or recommended practice (See S5 for subreferenced SAE materials)
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top">
    </td><td valign="top">
    </td><td valign="top">
    </td><td valign="top">
    </td><td valign="top">
    </td></tr><tr><td valign="top">Tail lamps
    </td> <td valign="top"> 2 red
    </td> <td valign="top"> 2 red
    </td> <td valign="top"> 1 red
    </td> <td valign="top"> J585e, September 1977.
    </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top"> Stop lamps
    </td> <td valign="top"> 2 red
    </td> <td valign="top"> 2 red
    </td> <td valign="top"> 1 red
    </td> <td valign="top"> SAE J586, February 1984.
    </td></tr></tbody></table>
    So you need 1 red tail lamp and 1 red stop lamp meeting SAE J585e and SAE J586 respectively. And THAT got hard for my Google-fu to dig up and passed the limits of my attention span.

    So a good question to ask your lamp supplier might be "Does your LED replacement bulb meet standards SAE J585e and J586, as required by S5.1.1 of Technical Standards Document 108 referred to in Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations C.R.C.c.1038"?

    Or, you could just install nice bright reliable LED replacement bulbs and trust that the friendly RCMP officer can't understand any of this gobbledygook either.
  12. KamikazeKLR

    KamikazeKLR Shorty on the 650

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    Wow. That actually helps out quite a bit. Thank you!
  13. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    he he That was actually pretty tongue in cheek just to point out how hard a question 'what is legal' really is.

    If I thought a replacement bulb was brighter and would be safer I'd install it in a second and take it out if I got a ticket. Look at all the crazy blue headlights out there - I think automotive lights are not the highest priority for enforcement!

    ps - any action on your Trekker bags?
  14. KamikazeKLR

    KamikazeKLR Shorty on the 650

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    I agree. I just want really bright lights on my bike. Maybe add some reflective tape.

    And yes! this guy Jill or Gill is supposed to come down and look at em on monday. And every other day I get an email asking about them. They go for like over 1000$ w/racks brand new so I'm asking 850. Does that seem fair?
  15. 2whlrider

    2whlrider Fulltime laker

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    Um...all that stuff MacNoob said was on the tip of my tongue. :lol3
  16. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    I figure as long as you get enough to get the bags you really want, then it's a good deal for you, right?
  17. KamikazeKLR

    KamikazeKLR Shorty on the 650

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    Agreed. Happy Trail has this deal on where you can get a full pannier kit incl. racks and hardware for like 780$. I'm also getting them with a black finish since they're so cheap to protect the metal a bit (and make my new decals pop hehehehe)

    OH! and if you spend more than a certain amount, you get a free 100$ gift certificate. so i basically get a sweet pannier set and 100$ towards a new display or tank bag that I've been wanting.
  18. SoSlow

    SoSlow Having fun

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    Just took a look at their site... pretty nice stuff. Might give them a call, get an idea for pricing. Thanks!
  19. SoSlow

    SoSlow Having fun

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    :lol3
  20. SoSlow

    SoSlow Having fun

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    I got one from either AVC or DSP (I'll try to find the receipt) after my wife followed me home one day in the rain and said she could barely see the stock light. I had already opened a conversation with the WPS about riding in the winter so emailed them back again and asked about the bulb. The response I got was something along the lines of "to be safe, it needs to say DOT on it somewhere". Unfortunately, the one I have isn't DOT certified but I spent the whole afternoon aiming it properly so it wasn't going to blind anyone behind me.

    Some of the LED bulbs out there are called "dazzlers" which - while getting the attention of the drivers behind you - will likely also get the attention of police. I just wanted to be seen, not burn the corneas of the people behind me...

    I just took a peek at both AVC and DSP and the kit I got isn't there anymore, hmm...

    EDIT: It was DSP. But yeah, looks like they don't carry it anymore. It was a big improvement over the stock bulb, though.