Forget Moab, Gateway, CO., is best new OHV area!!

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by Cloud9, Dec 22, 2008.

  1. Greg@RME

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    As far as bridges go, yes, to my knowledge. If you're willing to ford the river, there's 3 mapped river crossings that I know of. One of them crosses to private property and the other 2 are viable options.

    I wouldn't think about crossing the Dolores during Spring run-off, even when it's running low it's questionable by motorcycle IMO. You'd want friends nearby in case you didn't make it.


    Crossing the Dolores in early winter by 4x4-
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  2. Max49

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    looks kinda spooky
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  3. MeterPig

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    The interesting part about making areas known or not known is probably rooted in ATV hate. The reality is that dealerships are selling far more ATV's than horses or motorcycles. The market is changing and evolving. If we as politically active motorcyclists show hate towards ATV riders, we get nowhere.

    The reality is that single track is going away. In fact, much of the trails I understand used to be single track before there were ATV's. And now, they are going away.

    The funny thing is, many folks call Rampart single track when it really isn't.

    I can understand the desire to keep something for yourself and your buddies. Heck, territorial feelings are nothing new and something we have harbored since our days as a child.

    I think the bigger question is whether our friends actually are aware of the war going on over our public lands. I know that almost every rider I have encountered knows nothing of what is going on.

    If we invest our time in hating ATV riders, MTB's or hikers vs. investing time in educating those that are around us, we will lose and end up like the UK where only outlaws ride.

    You make the choice.
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  4. ironbrewer

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    Looks like a great area Cloud9. Can you get full sized maps from the BLM?? With the atv issue, I used to bag on atv riders, but will be careful to only bag on any kind of trail rider that doesn't respect the trail or other users on the trail from now on. The atv riders that got Mountain out when he broke his wrist saved the day. Without their excellent help it either would have been much harder, or much more expensive.
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  5. Max49

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    I agree Meter Pig, let us not forget, the Sierra Club and such is our enemy, not ATVers. They like , what we like, and we need all as many people on our side that we can get.
    The only trails that will stay single track are trails like these.
    [​IMG] where its just impossible for them to go


    Are those roads around Gateway OHV friendly? For example, 4 25/100 Rd. &
    4 15/100Rd run on both sides of the Delores River. And about thousand others.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...55,-108.986564&spn=0.008258,0.019312&t=h&z=16

    This place looks awesome on Google Earth and Maps. Is there lots of good primitive camping?
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  6. Cloud9

    Cloud9 I was HERE?

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    Sweet pic Max49, where is it? And yes you're correct only trails which have "gate keepers" or as seen here, have the chance to to remain ST.

    As far as the .kmz file for google earth goes:

    WHITE routes are county maintained 2WD roads and currently I don't think any one on the Colorado side has issue with OHVs on them.

    RED routes are 4WD of various degrees

    BLUE routes are basically for Jeeps or OHVs and can be very rough. OHVs here includes street legal motorcycles.

    You'll note that on the CO/UT border there is a WHITE line which indicate a very straight route running along the border. THIS is Moab BLMs inventory data as we received it, there is no such route in the Gateway area running straight along the border as indicated by their data.

    IB, I'm not sure what size maps the BLM will have for this area, you'll have to check.
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  7. Max49

    Max49 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the clarification on the red, white & blue trails. I was wondering if there was a legend for that on Google earth .
    That pic came from another thread on Ad Rider. It is in Idaho somewhere. Gives me the willies. But I always smile and think of it when people insist on single track. Be careful what you ask for.
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    Man that looks fantastic ! any chance of a guided tour sometime?:ricky
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  9. RedHawk47

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    Six years or so ago (before the Gateway Resort was there) I rode across the Uncompahgre from Delta to Gateway with Steve Green. I'm glad he knew where he was going. There's a lot of roads up there and most aren't marked. We rode SW from Delta to the Divide Road, then NW on the Divide Road and off the mesa on the Uranium Road to Gateway. That was mostly 2WD roads but places were challenging due to the deep ruts. We took a single track to a isolated camping spot with a fabulous view and the largest aspen trees I had ever seen. I hugged one and could not touch my fingers.

    A couple of years later I rode the Nucla-Delta Road. Again 2WD, beautiful, and not well marked; had to ask for directions several times. Ran into fresh, deep gravel on the downhill into Delta.

    Beautiful Country. Looking at my gazettes I see a lot of roads/trails on the SW side of the Uncompahgre, off the plateau but way above the river, in addition to many on top. Lots of exploring to do.
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  10. Cloud9

    Cloud9 I was HERE?

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    I'd be very interesed in getting a ride together but it will have to wait till mid summer because my shoulder is on the mend till around then. :bluduh

    Maybe a two or three day over-nighter in the area
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    I know the area a little bit- not like Cloud 9, but enough to get us in a lot of trouble, fairly quickly.:D Maybe, if you dare, I can guide a handbasket of riders into the unknown before Ron gets healed up. Caveat- for those who don't know me- "navigation isn't my thing.":lol3 However, I can get from my driveway in GJ all the way to Naturita with only crossing 2 roads.:thumb
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    Good stuff in that link...:clap
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    :scratch I don't think they were talking about flying in a plane Jim. :lol3


    Actually, anything south of the GPS'd area and I'm a complete noob, so some time I'll have to do the Naturita ride with you! :thumb
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    These colors apply to the Granite Creek Inventory. The colors in the A6Routes set are blue, green, and violet (lavender?). What do they indicate?
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    A6 (Area 6 of the Bangs Canyon Special Recreation Management Area (SRMA)) was designed to be a major single track (bicycle/motorcycle) area and was approved and signed off by Catherine Robertson, the Field Office Manager. So this is NOT a wish list item... this is part of the signed plan)

    So there are only really two types of routes in this area

    GREEN is either exsisting 4WD or "to be built 4WD" route called Snyder Flats Road and is to be a re-route of the Tabeguache Trail system connecting Hwy 141 with Little Park Road and is part of the last RPM's MUST do requirement that didn't happen. I'm proud to let you all know that it was my personal efforts which lead to finding a way through the cliff band which had kept this from happening. (you should have seen the look on the AANs faces when they saw this route going their "personal" "you can't do that!" area... IT WAS TRUELY PRICELESS. :augie :jack :super My boss was so happy because it threw all of their other pitiful, cry baby, "issues" down into the basement. I swear, it was like watching a 5000 lb bomb go straight down the smoke stack of a battleship!) There are some issues to completing this connector though. My BLM riding partner is working hard to kept this from failing. The other two colors;

    BLUE and VIOLET (... what is "urple" Alex, lavender) are single track. PURPLE are the routes the BLM is suppose to build THIS ('09)summer, (but the GJ archy, who is VERY AAN, is doing everything she can to stop the GJ office from building this World Class riding area as the Bangs Canyon Plan stipulates) BLUE routes are alternet lines or in some cases exsisting 4WD not to be used... sorry I wasn't going to send this but since it's out AND it is public information, so be it.

    :deal
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    I'm not freed up till mid June early July so hopefully that could work , thanks for offering .:ricky :ricky
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