Found a 125 Rickman Zundapp

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  1. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    Hello all, used to be on Advrider but they've lost me so I am noobed again. Used to be Eurofreak...
    Anyways I recently found this Rickman and am looking for part sources especially different size pistons and a headlight/tailight combo.
    Rickmans were built in Britain using Zundapp and Montesa engines and then later did a lot of custom frames for Triumphs etc. beautiful nickel plated and sturdy compared to the Jap stuff.

    This model is a '74 Six Days model-should have lights. The engine is an 18 hp 5 speed with a chrome bore. Current piston and rings are a little loose for the bore wear. Bosch Electronic ignition and a Bing 53 carb. Any leads would be appreciated. Still trying to post a picture-sorry
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  2. Rabbitson

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    I don't have any idea but I'd like to see some pictures of the beast if you feel like posting.

    David
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  3. MZRider

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  4. motu

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    I've got a bare tank and frame of the Rickman Zundap...I'm looking for a donor bike to supply engine forks and wheels.Plenty of room to fit almost anything,but the forks will need to be short.It's not really the real thing,it's the military version with a steel tank and frame.
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  5. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    Thanks guys. I'm still trying to downsize the pictures- didn't think it would be so difficult. Need to figure it out.
    MZ Rider- all those sites have something so i may be in luck for the piston. Appreciate it.
    Motu, I think all the smaller bikes and steel tanks and frames. Ceriani or Betor forks were used. Yeah, a lot of Rickmans were sold as a frame kit so there's plenty of room for many 125-250 motors.
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  6. Xcuvator

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    Eurobad, I don't know who you use to host your pictures, but if I publish my pictures to Photobucket in the small size, they will go right to Ad Rider afterwards.
    I saw a bike like yours (ISDT)only it was set up for a Triumph Cub motor and the owner converted it to a Honda. He has it street legal and rides it around town. Pretty cool.
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  7. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    Don't have a place to host pics- guess I'll get on it :D
    Got a new piston ring from Rik Smets- He used to play B-ball is a big vintage enthusiast. Popped it in today and she fired up!!
    Rode it down the road quick as that's the only place w/o snow-got pulled over by my neighbor cop. She was amused and I promised to go home.
    The carb still isn't right- no low end and leaky. Higher in the revs it does start to move well. Clutch and all five speeds work fine.
    :clap
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  8. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    See if this works
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  9. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    I want to paint it Rickman red after doing a little bodywork.
    Hey motu, I was wrong. Earlier Rickmans-'72's and earlier-came with fiberglas tanks according to my parts manual.
    The Jap motor route is a possibility-I considered a Honda XL175 or Yamaha Dt 175- we'll see.
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  10. motu

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    So,the later ones had metal tanks? Mine is a '73,so that explains the metal tank.The tail piece has been bogged up - but I remember when I saw this bike 25 years ago that it had a radio mount on the rear.I haven't been able to find much about the military Rickman 125's....could your reshearch into these bikes shed any more light for me?

    I've got 4 Honda singles here - my own TLR200,a TL125,SL125 and XL125.Logic says a Honda single for me....but a 2 stroke would be interesting too.
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  11. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    I have a manual that goes to '73 models. The police bike has a small fairing, leg guards, panniers, and a radio w/antenna mounted on the back. A low fender with a rubber guard for the front. It lists the gas (petrol) tank as fiberglass. Other specs are the same for the frame.
    Haven't measured but if an XL 250 motor fits, the frame is light and very sturdy. Well able to handle the power. It would also allow me to use it on the road a little. I know a Yamaha 175 will fit- one is on fleabay right now.
    Got a few old yamahas I can steal an engine from :evil
    The more I think of it the more I want as big a motor as possible. I'm very impressed with how well built the frame is.
    Someone wants to buy the 125 motor so...
    As to your fender, go to http://www.rickman-motorcycles.com
    They have new fenders. You can buy one or even repair yours to match one of their pictures.
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  12. motu

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    Police? Possibly,but I seem to remember some were used by the military.By bogged up I mean filler has been used over the radio mount to give a normal Rickman guard look,but underneath you can see the radio mount.The engine mounts have been cut off my frame,a previous owner was going to fit a 500cc Triumph.I remember that guy,he had been impressed with my 500cc Rickman Triumph and wanted to make one too.I didn't connect him to this bike until I saw the radio mount.

    So,having no engine mounts means I can put in anything that fits.I am waiting for something to fall into my lap....I prefer that approach than clinically deciding on an engine and going out to find one.Living in a farming area with lots of farm bikes,I'm sure something will turn up one day...no hurry.If you don't actively look....things go out and find you instead.
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  13. Alfons

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    Hi Euromad,

    greetings from Germany, where Zündapps were manufactured. I owned one as an 18-year-old lad and it was a blast to ride; I have still a few wrecks in my shed which are waiting for their resurrection (once retirement is there).

    Since the factory in Miunich went bust in the 1980s and its machinery was disassembled and shipped to the People's repubilc in China, spare parts have become an increasing problem. The original piston was made by Mahle, arguably the best piston manufacturer in Europe. The parts made for Zundapp were quickly sold out, and I believe there are pistons on sale on ebay/Germany. Chrome-bore cylinders are equally rare; here it is the Dutch, among whom Zündapps were popular bikes, who might supply replacements.


    greetings

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  14. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    Thanks Alfons- I followed the links in one of the above posts and two of three have some parts. I'm surprised parts aren't more common in Germany. Parts are available for the Bing here as well. The person I bought the bike from had several cylinders and pistons but he will not answer requests :huh
    Another option for the cylinder is to have it replated to the original dimensions with nikasil or similar plating-about $200 US. Do you have any spare headlights or tail lights? What other motors have you seen in Rickmans?

    Motu- Small island huh? I suppose there aren't many Rickmans floating around New Zealand.
    The handbook says police model but they could be for anything. Good approach to the motor search for the frame. A 500 Triumph will fit in that frame? That would be excellent! Any pictures of the old 500?
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  15. motu

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    This was my Rickman,it was a 1964,and I got it in 1974 and used it as a street bike.The 125 frame might hold the small Triumph,but it would be tight.I'm sure I'll stumble across something.

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    A Cub engine will physically fit in a 125 frame but it is damn near impossible to get the chain to line up. Pushes the engine a good bit outta the frame to get the chain to run straight. That plan got shifted to the back burner :lol3
    We havent tried to fit a 500cc Triumph into one of these frames but have done some measuring and it looks like it would take alot of hacking and would still prolly run into the same problem as the Cub engine.
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  17. Euromad

    Euromad Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the info 305. I'll look for something else to stick in it. The Ton Up concept is great. i also have a '74 R90/6 I'm modding so you can actually go around corners. 100mph is very interesting-easier for sure on my Buell.
    That 500 looks very cool Motu! I want to make this something for my wife to putt around on and another pitbike for myself. With a reliable motor I can vintage race it a little too.
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    Does this bike have a battery? I have one but just getting started researching parts/operational manual, etc. Frustrating...wah, weah, wah...
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  19. Strong Bad

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    I worked for a shop back in the 70's that sold Rickmans (E.C.Birt's Precision Cycles in Lawndale, CA).

    There was a Police model Rickman Zundapp made, they were white. I had one that I bought after it was displayed at the LA bike show.

    The steel tanks came on the street legal bikes as per the EPA regulations.

    We made a bunch of money making aftermarket gussets for the little Rickman 100s & 125s as the down tubes tended to break just below the steering head. I doubt that a big heavy motor from a trumpet would work very well for long in those frames.
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