Four Dudes, a vintage Honda Twin, and the 2012 Mexican 1000

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  1. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Yeah we talked about Motion Pro as an option before we found the MR cables, but at $45+ for a custom cable, it is an expensive option. Considering that for the cost of 2 cables, we can get a day of gas for a chase vehicle in Mexico! When racing on a budget...good to save money where we can. Free is a very good price for two cables!
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  2. schaffer40

    schaffer40 I look lived in.....

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    Good luck with this years race. I spent my childhood chasing CHECKERS around Mexico with my family and what your doing takes me right back. I am subscribing and looking forward to the shirts and stickers.
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  3. BSkye

    BSkye Been here awhile

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    :D like those checks and balances.

    Amazing what all can be done and goes into such venture, though.

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  4. LC Garage

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    This morning Al (aka Loud Al) and I headed down to Tillamook to spend the day working on Team Outta Sight Racing's SL350. Unfortunately Luke was in his super secret lab testing flux capacitors and was not available today. Our agenda included mounting the XR triple clamp into the SL steering-head, installing the carbs & clutch cover, and cleaning, prepping and painting numerous small parts. We also checked the true on some spare wheels and began mounting tires for both the "One Show" and test riding.

    Here is Al mounting the Maxxis Desert IT on a rear wheel, with Tubliss;

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    Al makes it look so easy, he has time to grin;

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    Here you can see we have the triple clamps installed & waiting for fork legs ~ the fork legs are waiting for their boots.....note Paul in deep contemplation while in the background shop host Lonnie continues to tirelessly toil;

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    Carbs installed;

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    Speaking of the "One Show", the ultra clean CZ hanging from Lonnie's rafters (upper left) is scheduled to be in the show along with OSR's SL350;

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    The swing arm is nearly finished and will soon be powder coated, Konflict Motorsports will have our shocks delivered sometime in the next week, and progress is moving steadily forward. While there, we also picked up a few bits and pieces to finish up the CL350. We hope to have it completely ride ready and shined up to sell before or during the One Show. :D
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  5. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    To add to what Rick posted:

    Allan and Rick came down today for a tech day and I think we got a lot accomplished. I began the day by showing the boys the pistons and head gasket from last years race...nice and toasty!

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    During the last week, Ray our welder came by and welded in our new lower steering stem collar that he had machined.
    The purpose of this collar was so that we could use a standard XR lower bearing with the SL steering head. See, the SL lower steering head is a weird 1/2 metric size, that is specifically a Honda size. I have yet to find a similar bearing with the same OD with 26mm ID. But it is a common Honda bearing and was used on tons of Hondas including the venerable CB750. So tapered bearing kits for the SL are available. But here is the hitch, the SL steering stem is tapered, where the top bearing ID is 26mm and the bottom is 30mm (I think). The XR600 stem bearing ID is 26mm top and bottom (and has the same OD as well). So, the SL top bearing from last year works fine with the XR stem, but the SL bottom will not work. So, we had a collar machined to insert in the lower stem to make the OD to match the XR bearing. Other than that, it is really a simple bolt up solution as the XR stem is long enough to fit in the SL frame.

    Clear as mud?? Oh yeah, we were going to also make a collar for the top so we could just use the XR600 bearing there, but the OD difference is so small that Ray was worried about the strength of the collar due to it being so thin.

    Ray had also cut off the steering lock tab so Allan touched that up with some black paint. Then after some early issues, we worked together...slowly...and carefully...since our lives would be depending on doing the steering stem mount-up correctly...and we got it together and if fit like a charm!!

    Rick is very proud of his balls...er...ball bearing packing skills....:wink:

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    Lonnie had painted up some parts for us, to make them look good for "THE ONE SHOW" in which the SL will be on exhibit along with other cool bikes.

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    If you live in the Portland area, you don't want to miss this show...and it's free to get in!! If you come, please come by and find an OSR crew/rider an say hi!

    http://www.theonemotorcycleshow.com/

    We haven't been added to the builders tab yet..but their working on it. This is a great show, lots of cool bikes to look at, and lots of interesting people to meet and discuss bikes. I am honored that we were invited to show off the bike..and we will also be showing off Lonnie's CZ dirt bike that is currently hanging from his rafters.

    Anyway, Lonnie painted up the side cover, triples and fork lowers and they came out great as always. Lonnie is a stickler for prepping stuff before he paints and it shows in the finished product. I could never get anything looking that good from a rattle can.


    Rick put on the right side cover, then we decided to polish up the oil pump cover, because the side cover looked so good. Then we decided that the counter-sprocket cover needed to be painted to match, then we decided that the stator cover, which has a gold patina from last years overheating incident, needed to go and so the boys polished up a silver one to better match the other stuff...but then off course the case cover under the stator cover needed to painted or it just wouldn't look right :lol3

    Needless to say, we painted and polished much more than we had planned but since Luke wasn't there to get the electrical squared away to get the bike started, we had to keep occupied :deal


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    We mounted up the triples and Allan took off the trials rear and put on a knobby. He also pulled off a front knobby of a stock SL wheel so we could mount it up on the XR front.

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    Lonnie had been working on getting the front XR rim de-rusted and looking decent, but he pointed out that it may be in worse shape than we thought.


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    There is aluminum flaking off where the rim strip goes, so we are need of another front wheel. We have some spare hoops that could be relaced with the hub and some new spokes, but that is going to cost some money...so if anyone out there has a front wheel for a 1985-92 (i think) XR600 that they would love to donate to the cause, please let us know. Incidently, XR250R front wheels from the same vintage should work too..... :deal

    Here I am explaining how an internal combustion motor works to Rick...what a simpleton!!

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    Ok....to be fair, I have no idea how an internal combustion motor works...I can barely operate the damn things....while Rick has rebuilt more of them than I have probably ever started! I was probably saying something more akin to this:
    "I'm an idiot, that's why you are working on this, got it?"

    Rick also got the carbs mounted up and Allan cleaned up the air filters and cleaner.

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    Lonnie loves to hang stuff in his garage so we always have some cool stuff to look at. This week, it was the front end from last year's SL racer, but in Trials garb when we ran it in the AHRMA National Trials meet at Chehalis.

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    I also broke out the HD video camera and started blocking out some shots. One of the good things about me not iron-manning the M1K this year is that I will have more time and focus to be able to document our adventure. I hope to capture some great stuff along the way!!

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    We got tons of shit accomplished today!! Much more than I anticipated. And thanks to Allan for taking some photos of it all.



    After the boys left I had some time to just futz around with the bike. This is some of my favorite things to do. I get to work out some ideas or thoughts about the bike, without the pressure of "getting things done" when the boys are here to do work. So, I threw on the forks and handlebars, tank and seat on and played around with some of my auxiliary fuel options for this years M1K.

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    With the Acerbis in the tank bag...last year we had MSR cans in there. Note the Day 2 map in the map holder...and that is real baja silt on the tank bag and roto-pax as they have not been used or cleaned since last year :D

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    Thanks for checking in!

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  6. LC Garage

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    "Rick is very proud of his balls...er...ball bearing packing skills....:wink:"

    Just an fyi, those are tapered bearings, not "balls"!!!!:rofl(and yes I am proud of them.......the skills anyway :D)
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  7. papaduc

    papaduc Been here awhile

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    Looks like things are really starting to come together.
    You guys are doing a great job on the prep which will make a difference down the road.
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  8. Ladybug0048

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    Terrific update guys. :clap
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  9. crazybrit

    crazybrit Long timer

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    Excellent report. Bike is looking great :thumb Always good to see the worker bees working and OC getting it done supervisory style :D
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  10. gs211

    gs211 Adventurer wannabe!!

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    I like the look of the Acerbis tank mounted on the front Forks
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  11. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    I like the look of the chain you donated to the cause!! Thanks Jon!! That's two years that you have sponsored our drivechain to Baja!! :freaky
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  12. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    The boys came down today and we got a lot accomplished on the bike.

    I am going to wait for Allan's photos to be uploaded and then I'll do a proper update. I will tell you this, the bike was started today and sounded like a dream!! First time running since the rebuild, started on the fourth kick :freaky

    And because we don't take ourselves too seriously...here's a funny trailer using clips from last year:

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  13. ric678

    ric678 Been here awhile

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    Nice work on the trailer
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  14. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Thanks,
    Just having some fun with iMovie....makes it an easy fill in the blanks deal :D
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  15. JeffS77

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    man i got to try iMovie...looks like it would even make one of my lame rides look epic :lol3
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    Treadless avoiding gravity storms if at all possible

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    Just saying. :1drink

    'Cause there ain't much about a Honda "dream" that's intimidating. :lol3
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  17. Kootenai Rider

    Kootenai Rider Gentleman of Liesure

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    Great Video Paul! I'll see you at The One.
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  18. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Good point.

    It did sound a little mean and nasty having those straight pipes on there :freaky
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  19. MortimerSickle

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    Ah, the open pipe Honda twin. :raabia

    A judge once told me he didn't understand why anyone would do such a thing.



    I didn't try to explain the the beauty of such music.

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  20. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Allan, Luke and Rick came down to Lonnie's on Saturday for a good work day. I surprised them by showing them the freshly powder coated swingarm.

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    A local guy named Jessie does all of our powder coating, and so far, on this bike project, his turn around has been pretty amazing. Lonnie brought the swingarm to him on Thursday, and it was done by Friday! And it looked great. We did not mount it up this weekend (shocks not here yet), so I will hold off on detailed photos of it, but let me tell you this, Ray is real artist and metal and heat are his mediums. It is simply amazing. More on this in the next update!


    Allan has a history of breaking things he is trying to fix, and we try to keep him busy taking photos to help us reduce accidents. However, seems this reputation may be misplaced, because it was Luke and Rick who decided to leave their mark this weekend!! :1drink

    Luke was busy trying to get the old rusty XR600 front brake caliper apart when both pins sheared off on him. Not really his fault, but Luke rarely makes mistakes so I need to take advantage of the situation when it happens. Luke was also busy checking and hooking up the motor to his custom wiring from last year.

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    Luke also worked on getting the bushings mounted on the swingarm.

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    Rick was given a set of our spare carbs to rebuild. He is real good at this, except he forgot one of the golden rules, "no wire wheels on sensitive parts." :wink: And I have to keep reminding these guys that a wire wheels and grinders are not "buffing tools."

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    Believe me, It is not easy to keep a shop full of guys away from their tools of preference.

    So, in a nutshell, here are the general guidelines I try to keep the guys within when working on the SL:

    1. If something is not coming off, your probably not doing it right. These old Hondas don't need to be beaten when working on them, but rather finessed (paraphrased from Gary, our engine guy).

    2. No regular phillips screwdrivers when dealing with stuck phillips bolts. Manual impact wrench only!

    3. A wire wheel and grinder are not buffing tools (unless Lonnie is cleaning up some bolts or other hardware)

    4. Plastic mallet first....then metal if absolutely necessary.

    5. Vise grips, crescent and pipe wrenches are not "proper metric wrenches."


    Trust me, its a full time job. And strangely, these guys are very happy when I leave the shop area for any period of time :hmmmmm




    Rick's little ding occurred when he was "buffing" the float on the wire wheel when it popped out of his hand and hit the floor. Not really a big deal as he has extra's at his house. I like to give Rick a hard time, but honestly, this man has forgotten more about all things mechanical than I will ever know :deal

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    Here's me and Rick with the day's sacrificial parts:

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    Allan got the fork boots mounted up and they looked great. I always thought the SL's motor appeared a little too big for such a small bike. There were some concerns early on in this year's bike that the larger diameter forks would look out of place on the bike. But I think they just improve on the bike's looks. Its gonna look a whole lot beefier, but better proportional to the beautiful Honda twin motor. More photos of the bike when I get them uploaded.



    Lonnie was in and out helping us out, cooking a pizza I brought, and generally kept the machine moving forward.

    And yes, I was working too! Don't know why there are no photos of this......I helped button up the motor, get the air cleaners on, re-plumb the carbs, and generally get the bike ready to start. :1drink

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    It was really a great work day and Ray even showed up to mount a tab for our custom chain guide/roller system that the boys have come up with.

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    We got so much done, and thanks to Alex from Konflict Motorsports, our tasty new high-tech, high performance custom made shocks are on the way. According to Alex, they are almost too pretty to put on a dirt bike. C'mon Alex, this sure is one pretty dirt bike!





    True words, Ken. Very true. :nod

    I'm not one for unnecessary fist-bumping, but after having the motor apart for months, and only a few months before we race in Mexico, it sure seemed necessary on this day! You can tell by the "little boy on Christmas morning" look on my face that I was pretty happy about this :deal


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    You'll see Luke in the video removing the bolt on the engine head. We had no idea until Gary told us, that the only purpose of that bolt is to check to see if oil is getting to the top of the head. It was! And that is very good information that we will use at days end in Mexico.

    The bike should be pretty much together for the ONE SHOW in two weeks. And its a runner!! This work day was just a reminder of how much of a collaborative effort this bike really is. If you want good results with any project, get good people involved and then let them do their work!

    Thanks Allan for the great photos!!
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