Four Dudes, a vintage Honda Twin, and the 2012 Mexican 1000

Discussion in 'Racing' started by oregoncoast, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. Luke

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    Paul, Rick, Lonnie, and Allan went for a ride. I'm sure it was no fun at all.

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    Actually, I'm told it was a great day; the bike ran well and the new suspension is just awesome.
  2. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Yep, no fun at all!! :1drink


    Ok, I'm lying. This weekend has been a great one for Outta Sight Racing, even if Luke was laid up with a bum ankle.

    Rick came down on Saturday and we did some fine tuning and some suspension tuning on the old girl, then took her up on some forest roads to stretch her legs. It was pretty misty and foggy and visibility was limited. The woods were full of locals hauling ass in their lifted Toyota's so we were cautious about taking it too fast. Lonnie let us borrow his vintage 1979 Honda XR500 and me and Rick took turns on the SL. We didn't stay out too long but made some good observations:

    Lonnie's XR has a sweet motor.....lots of torque, lots of power and its all there. However, the brakes are a bit lacking :eek1

    This just cemented the fact that the SL with its front XR600R front disc was a definite and important upgrade...the SL just stops like a modern bike. The brakes are consistent and competent...something that they weren't last year :clap


    Rick and I are both feeling real good about the bike and I can't wait to have Luke and Paul Jr. take there turn on here so we can see how they like it.


    On Sunday, Lonnie and I headed to Sandlake to get some sand time in. Allan came down and rode with us and helped get some video and photos of our day. It was a good day, and after some clutch adjustment (which is difficult to get right in soft sand), we tore it up.

    The SL just felt great on the sand, it tracked well and the front end soaked everything up I handed it. The rear needs some fine tuning with the rebound, but overall, she ran well for a 350 pound, 40 year-old dual sport...no, she ran amazing for a 350 pound, 40-year-old dual sport!!

    I quickly edited some of our Go-Pro video from the past two weekends...here ya go!



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  3. Mr. Fisherman

    Mr. Fisherman PROUD 2B Riff Raff!

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  4. Ladybug0048

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    That just made my morning. :clap

    Great pictures, that sure is a pretty bike.

    I really like the video, it's so good seeing the SL doing what it was built to do instead of sitting around looking pretty in a shop.

    Yep, the SL went to right home. :thumb
  5. papaduc

    papaduc Been here awhile

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    Really nice job on the video.
  6. LC Garage

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    Since my last report on physical conditioning, I have been doing at least one work out per day and two if the work schedule permits. When at work it is the treadmill (still going a half mile as a prelude to other work, but continuing to increase speed) and rowing machine (averaging about 175 strokes per sitting, 5 to 7 minutes), squat machine and a small amount of upper body work at break times, and when at home riding the stationary bike. The stationary bike is the type that has the push/pull handlebars and gives me a good workout. Saturday morning I logged a solid 45 minutes and felt pretty good. In addition, I&#8217;ve also been making a strong effort to eat healthy. If there are any fitness buffs out there reading this, I do realize this is not the stuff of iron man competitors, but it&#8217;s still way more than I&#8217;ve done in the past.

    After completing my Saturday morning workout, I hit the road for Tillamook to work on the bike with Paul and Lonnie. We pulled the front fork legs to replace the seals and wipers (last week one of the legs began weeping a bit) and then reinstalled. This was accompanied by the usual OSR &#8220;discussions&#8221; that get fairly animated at times, but it&#8217;s all in good fun.

    Paul and I then took the SL350 and Lonnie&#8217;s XR500 up into the back roads above Bay City and rode for about an hour, and learned pretty quickly that the turning radius of the SL350 is a bit wide for power-line trails! We also learned that while the old twin shock 500 has a really solid torque curve and is fun to ride, the brakes border on wishful thinking, creating a few moments of panic before you realized you just have to go a little slower. As Paul mentioned above, the SL350 brakes are working really well now and are confidence inspiring. :clap

    Yesterday I began prepping my TTR250 for the D100, starting with a good cleaning, then oil change (synthetic), and removing the tank, seat and air filter. Have been reading some TTR modification tips online and immediately found one of the tips to be useful. The stock throttle stop is adjusted to only allow about 7/8 throttle and when you are only dealing with about 20 HP to start with, full throttle might be handy, so readjusted that and also removed the highly restrictive snorkel at he top of the air box, as we shouldn&#8217;t be crossing any deep water out in the desert. Have got an engine skid plate on order as well as handlebar risers and also have a new Dunlop D952 to replace the much worn rear. I'm also modifying a small bag to fit the rear fender, in order to have somewhere to store tools and other handy bits. When all that is done I will also change front fork fluid and readjust the suspenders front & rear and should be ready. :D
  7. MortimerSickle

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    Not to worry, the brakes on a 500 will eventually bring the bike to a stop. You just have to patient. :D
  8. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Luke, Paul Jr., Allan and I are heading to the Juniper OHV area near the tri-cities in Washington, first thing in the morning tomorrow (Saturday). More updates following that adventure!!
  9. c.vestal

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  10. decafe

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    50 days. Left getting real I am trying to get in long day ride Sunday. Will call on Monday to talk. Andrew
  11. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    I knew that selling t -shirts was never going to pay for Outta Sight to get to Mexico...but I had hoped they would be done well before this. As mentioned earlier, I had a local artist with a true small-town screen printing shop working on the design. He ran into some trouble with some of his screens, and when I went there today, he was distressed and said that he was reworking the whole thing. He really wants it to be a great looking piece....and by great looking...we both mean outrageous 70's Rat-Fink funk!

    He feels horrible but I am sticking by him because in the end, any money he can make from us will be helpful for his tiny business. Besides...I love his design...although based on my wife's reaction...I may be in the minority!!

    Here's a sneaky spy-photo of what he's working on....

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  12. Mr. Fisherman

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    Sweet! can't wait to see your new tatoo! :rofl
  13. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Of the four Outta Sight Racing riders that will be riding in Mexico, Paul Jr. (Kootenai Rider) lives the farthest away in Coeur d'alene, Idaho and therefore, he hasn't had much of an opportunity to work on the bike...much less actually ride it since we made the upgrades to the suspension and brakes. So, this weekend, the plan was to drive out to Juniper Dunes OHV area near the Tri-Cities in Washington. We took the SL there last year and it proved to be a great place to shake down the bike for the Desert 100 and Mexican 1000; some rocks, deep sand, and lots of whoops.

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    Allan came along too. He is planning on riding his Yamaha WR250R along the route in Mexico to photograph the event, so it was a good idea for him to hone his sandy skills. Of course, he took a few photos. Rick had Bobcat issues on his property, so he could not make it.

    We arrived at around 1 pm on Saturday after a nice long slab-haul in the Sprinter east on I-84. Jr. showed up shortly after. We mounted up our flags and hit the whoops. Luke's plan was to mess around with suspension settings trying to dial it in for each if us...in the end, it turns out that we were all pretty happy with the same setting, despite our different heights and weights.


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    Then the problems started.....

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    Let me back up a bit. A couple of weeks ago, Rick and I were riding up behind Lonnie's house when I heard a clunking sound. I assumed it was a rock hitting the skid plate, and thought nothing more of it. Then when I went to Sandlake, the clutch seemed to be out of adjustment, I was able to readjust it and ride the pee out of her that day without issue.

    Cut back to Saturday: I noticed some oil in the skidplate saw it was leaking from the side of the motor. We pulled the side cover which houses the clutch adjustment mechanism and covers the counter sprocket. What I found, or more precisely, what we didn't find, was a bit concerning (no photos of course). The counter sprocket was missing its retainer and bolts - it was just sitting unattached to the spline. The clutch push rod also had some serious gouges in it and when pulled out, was markedly bent.


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    It was always a concern of mine that some issues may arise due to us extending the swingarm and adding more travel. Also having that longer chain and chain roller and guide were something we needed to keep our eye on, as they were really the big unknown. However, I think that the current issue (bent clutch rod allow oil to leak out) was caused by the CS bolts and retainer coming off and getting spun around under the cover. We later noticed some gouges in the case itself which really concerns me.

    In my spares box, I had another CS retainer and bolts (and loctite) but I could not find my spare clutch rod...it was either in the parts motor or somewhere in Lonnie's shop. This was Saturday, so unless we found a replacement clutch rod, we were not going to be riding the bike any more this weekend, thus, wasting more than $200 worth of diesel roundtrip just to get there. Of course, local Honda dealers don't exactly stock that part!

    Luke decided he could make one. :eek1

    We called Rick and had him measure the length of a proper clutch rod and then we were off to ACE hardware for a 5/16th rod stock and then Harbor Freight for a $9.99 angle grinder, cut-off and grinding wheels, an extension cord and some clamps :deal

    Luke and Paul Jr. got to work on the Shilo balcony, and in about 5 minutes, Luke had a replacement rod ready to try out.

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    I took the bike around the parking lot with proper redneck ATGATT on and the bike seemed to working find. Very impressive. A good and proper Baja fix right there in eastern Washington! :freaky

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    The next morning we went back to Juniper and Luke and Jr. flogged the crap out of the old SL :clap

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    I got to ride a real dirtbike, Jr.'s CRF450X.....wow, power and suspension...who'd a thunk it??

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    After awhile, I noticed some slight oil leaking. Back to the van, checked out the situation and discovered that although Luke's rod allowed the clutch to operate correctly, because the end wasn't machined with the proper dimple for the ball bearing on the clutch adjuster, it did not sit as it was designed to. Also, the other end which engages in the clutch basket was not exactly right, so the rod would spin which caused it to cut a groove and stretched out the seal a bit causing the leak. Luke filed on the rod a bit and I'm confident that if we had to race or ride it would have worked sufficiently to finish. But since we did not have to, I decided I'd rather just get a new rod, change the oil and install a new seal before beating on the bike again.

    Frustrated but happy to have ridden what we could...and for discovering problems before we head to Mexico, we called it a day.

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    All in all, it was a great weekend, which allowed us all to get in some sandy whoop training, and for Jr. and Luke to really get a feel for the SL and how their riding style needs to be adjusted when dealing with a vintage ride.



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  14. crazybrit

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    I feel a bit denied here. When i read this i was expecting to see Luke construct a lathe out of the contents of his pickup bed toolbox and bicycle pulled from a dumpster.

    Still his ingenuity is (as ever) incredibly impressive :thumb
  15. LC Garage

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    Still his ingenuity is (as ever) incredibly impressive :thumb[/QUOTE]

    Amen, you guys made lemonade out of lemons, well done! :clap
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    Luke is my hero.... some more :clap
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    me 2
  19. Luke

    Luke GPoET&P

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    Wow, I'm flattered. I can't imagine what you guys would be saying if that thing had worked for more than a couple of hours. :lol3
  20. oregoncoast

    oregoncoast Racing Like a Noob

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    Picked up a NOS clutch rod at the local Honda dealer. I love old small town motorcycle shops. Thank you Tillamook Honda!

    I am thinking of having some machined up, because they are apparently made of platinum with a retail price of $46!

    Ordered a new seal and a spoke set to re-lace the front wheel. The bike is still sitting in the Sprinter because we had 90 mph winds and then 4 inches of snow on Monday!