Framing question...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by DiabloADV, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    Building a shed on the side of my house. Q: Do I need to notch these rafters where they sit on the top plate, or can I leave them like this:

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  2. DUNDERHEAD

    DUNDERHEAD Been here awhile

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    Yes, better to have the full width of the top plate contact the rafter.
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  3. GH41

    GH41 Been here awhile

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    You could fake it with a properly cut wedge under each rafter. Fasten the rafter to the plate with a hurricane clip in addition to toe nailing. GH
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  4. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    and if you're going to only use a single top plate (instead of (2) 2x's stacked one on the other) you should stack the rafters directly over your wall studs. It'll save deflection of your top plate.
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  5. jdrocks

    jdrocks Gravel Runner

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    even on a small project like this, convention would be double top plate, stack framing, and birdmouth cuts on the rafters.
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  6. ROAD DAMAGE

    ROAD DAMAGE Long timer

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    Seems like everyone here gave you pretty good advice. (I wouldn't do the wedge thing though.) Cut a birds mouth in those and then install blocking between the rafters on the outside of the double top plate. You can do this and still get a hurricane clip on there with no problem.

    Feel free to PM with other questions.

    Good luck, Rob

    (BTW, I just love ADV! :lol3)
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  7. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    I had a hunch you effers would tell me to double the top plate. So I cut the notches and will add a second top plate.

    Hurricane clips? This is California! :evil

    Many thanks from the amateur carpenter....I need to keep the wife thinking that I know about this stuff. She got a bid of $4k to build this wing off the garage and my pride wouldn't let me pay it. $1k in materials and some busted thumbs later and I'll get it done...:clap
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  8. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    BTW...you don't happen to know Mike Zinker...lives out in Clark...
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  9. rapidoxidationman

    rapidoxidationman Easily trainable

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    In California they're called "earthquake ties":deal
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  10. Beezer

    Beezer Long timer

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    clips are "code" where ever you go no & matter what you call them
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  11. MrBob

    MrBob Out there

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    Wind and rain will load that roof in unpredictable ways. Add the clips.
    Even if you're skipping the permit and inspection part, you don't want to fail a buyer's inspection when you sell the house.
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  12. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    Good point. SWMBO is a realtor...although I hope to leave this house feet-first.
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  13. bomber60015

    bomber60015 Anatomically Correct

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    THAT has been my goal for the last 3 houses -- OMB keeps finding larger garages, though . . . .. . .

    ;-}
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  14. scooteraug02

    scooteraug02 Dog Rancher

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    Is this what you guys are telling him to do?

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    Rafter over stud so stud not cap supports weight.
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  15. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    I hope so, cause that's what I did! I made the "seat" 3-1/2" and the "heel" height to fit the slope of my rafter.
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  16. Skinner

    Skinner Mr.KTM

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    But what about the snow load :lol3
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  17. DiabloADV

    DiabloADV Semi-Occasional

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    What with climate change and all...perhaps I should plan for the unexpected. :-)
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  18. Wolfgang55

    Wolfgang55 Long timer

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    Your slight over build now will save you a lot of materials & time later.

    You're getting good direction here so you should be proud of your finished product.
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