Free online route building programs

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by Kingsized, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. 2WheelieADV

    2WheelieADV Been here awhile

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    Well, yes, Furkot can be a trip planning tool which is a good thing when you want it, but on the other hand if you want to layout just a quick route, you can do that too without any accommodations, fuel stops and other things it offers. Just draw a route, create a gpx file of the route or track, upload and go. And you don't have to follow it if you want to explore by yourself... To me it works both ways.

    On a side note, I've experimented different ways to explore from strictly riding planned routes to not planning at all, and I find that a combination of these two is the best choice. Moreover, no planning can be hit or miss situation when you just missing some good places and on some occasions even going in circles, or wasting time on the side of the road looking for these "nice" places, or wasting time looking to refuel instead of knowing where the fuel station on your route, etc.
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  2. Kingsized

    Kingsized Kingsized Adventurer

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    Op here. I haven't touched base with this thread in a while but wanted to check in to say that what I'm using these days are Google Maps and then uploading hyperlink into GPS Visualizer and converting to gpx file. I can do all of this with online resources. I have had some difficulties lately with how these gpx files act after installed in my new Zumo 590 but that is another conversation.

    I tried most everything mentioned in this thread but the two above work best for me. I'd invite you to at least try it for a route and see if it works for you.

    Thanks for keeping this thread pinned up top.
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  3. 2WheelieADV

    2WheelieADV Been here awhile

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    I got tired of how the nav reroutes my routes. It's a pain to proofread a route in the nav and if it's not right - do that song and dance of adding via points-saving-uploading-checking again... and to top it up, Montana can freeze up in the middle of the route if the route is somewhat involved. You realizing that you just passed the exit you need while the screen stuck on the road 2 or 5miles back... Now look for a place to stop, reload the battery and start over.
    So I switched to tracks. The drawback is that there is no turn-by-turn instructions and you need to visually follow the route. Easy to get distracted and miss a turn. But I have no easy solution to this.
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  4. apexroads

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    I'm currently developing an app as a side project, all free and no ads: https://www.apexroads.com

    Web interface with the root planning is all there, the mobile app will be released soon. It'll show you all the best roads, plan your trip, then you can launch it right into google maps.

    If anybody has some features that they'd like to see let me know and I'd be happy to add them.
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  5. Dunewar

    Dunewar Been here awhile

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    Anyone tried routeyou.com?
    A bit fidly interface, but allows for route planning with GPX download and sharing.

    However, I am looking to go over completely to ipad instead of laptop. None of the sites above works even remotely well on an ipad. I am looking for an ipad compatible app or website to do routeplanning. I use an android app with OSMAND to navigate using GPX files created on Routeyou. Ideally, I would like to use an android app to plan the routes beforehand (OSMand does not do this), or an ipad app with GPX download functionality. Or a website.
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  6. apexroads

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    Have you tried apexroads.com? I know I just posted about it so I don't want to be annoying, but I haven't tested too much on an iPad, so I'm curious how well it's working.

    I do provide GPX downloads and it has a modern interface, so it should check all your boxes. I'd love to know what you think.

    edit: sorry, didn't you were in Belgium!
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  7. Dunewar

    Dunewar Been here awhile

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    Just tried it. The round-trip feature does not work, it keeps asking me for a departure position... Also, I cannot add intermediate points. I would like to exactly specify which roads should be taken. I already have an android app for adress-to-adress navigation, but I want to almost draw a trip over the exact roads I want to go over, put it in GPX in OSMAND and go for a ride all day long...
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  8. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    Chuck the Montana.

    You can do all of that with Locus Pro on a cell phone including generating routes on the fly. Locus has both Navigation (turn by turn) and Guidance which is akin to following a track except if you are saavy and set your via points to intersections you get a ping just before you get there (user sets the time before) so you know to check, which you can set to wake up the screen so if there isn't a point where you need to turn your screen is down and most phones will last 8-9 hours like that before they need to charge. All sorts of user options.

    There are even a few devices like Kyocera Durashocks, and Experia Z3s that not only can do everything the Garmin does, they are water/dust resistant AND have external power.
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  9. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    For me I use Furkot planning at home.
    I use Locus Pro (Andriod) for crapping out routes on the fly when out and about (its about the easiest method I have found on a 5" touchscreen) I can't help you for the Navi, as I don't use iAnything on philosophical grounds.

    Locus Pro is paid....like $8 if I remember right, but the free version should do what you desire, and it can do it both online or offline depending on your preference.
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  10. apexroads

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    If you're trying routes outside US/Canada it wouldn't work... If you're doing a round trip, it needs one of the suggested roads to get a route started, but there aren't any suggested routes outside the US/Canada.

    You could do a one way trip, then once you have the route, you can drag points from the current route to where ever you please.

    E.g. I unchecked the "is this a round trip" box, put the starting location at Brussels, the ending location at Antwerp, then took a point and dragged it into Ghent:
    https://www.apexroads.com/app/shared/4WEQjmkrj8FiQgX7Y?route=MAcgnrWNxXJECENdd
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  11. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    Though NOT free ($6 mo or $60 year) our Rever website allows you to create routes (paved and dirt) click by click along the road like Gramin on your computer.
    You can save and name it and then open your phone Rever app (IOS & Android)
    and it's loaded & available to you to ride...no GPS needed.
    It does not auto route (we are working on that) so you must watch the route and turn to follow the line. You can also export as a .gpx to send to others or load on a GPS.
    Our whole map collection of rated roads is also displayed too in color.
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  12. kurviger

    kurviger Bloke from Kurviger.de

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    I am working on Kurviger a motorcycle route planner that favors curvy roads and slopes while avoiding motorways and cities. The website as well as the app are free to use, world-wide. You can plan routes from A to B (including unlimited via points), generating roundtrips by providing a start position and a distance. GPX import and exporting in different formats like gpx, itn, rte, trp, kml, and so on is possible. There is also a Pro app including turn-by-turn navigation, offline maps, longer round trips, and much more.
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  13. ktarasenko

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    I usually use regular google maps. They are flexible enough for preparing trip using roads I want. Then I can just copy URL to GPX visualiser and import resulting file to any mapping tool.
    @kurviger, @eakins I like the fact it's getting more better route planners, but focusing on "perfect round trip for a day", they are missing multi-day trips features. The route planning tool of my dream is basically google maps, that shows distance and time of each section between waypoints, and has "route profile" (highways, ferries etc) for each section. That should be not too difficult to do with existing google maps js api, but I'm still to lazy for that and keep drag-and-dropping dots and counting on my own.

    Another thing that I'd like to be improved in existing motorcycle route planners: I usually don't want to go most curvy road for 1.5 hour through my hometown, but rather go 100 km away from it and enjoy nice landscapes there. It is still achievable (go to point A on highway, do a "thrilling round trip", come back on highway), but requires more effort.
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  14. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    That is litterally Fukot.
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  15. 2whlin

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    About to throw my Montana in the trash. Can't even route a simple route on streets without it shooting off into neverland and back. Played around with creating a route in Locus Pro. When I got to dirt, it popped up a screen saying it could not calculate and asked if I wanted to change my navigation settings to Brouter? So I did and downloaded the areas I will be working with them resumed my mapping. Well, Brouter is doing crazy stuff in the dirt too. Geeze this is going to kill my next Adventure if I can't even map it.
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  16. 2WheelieADV

    2WheelieADV Been here awhile

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    Montana is good for navigating tracks, but not routes. I don't know about gpx files form Locus, but if I make a track in furkot, Montana will navigate. Problem with navigating on road is sometimes it will zoom out a lot, and will zoom in just as you almost passed the turn. It is possible not to use Auto zoom, but I haven't tried. Or the simplest way is just follow the track (colored as you choose) without its navigation.
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  17. georgethegoat

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    Read the five pages of this thread. Awesome resources!

    Anybody have feelings on which tool is best for taking the most direct route between waypoints and favoring unmaintained/dirt/gravel roads/trails?

    I've found that stuff geared towards bicycling guides you places that motorbikes aren't allowed.
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  18. Tripped1

    Tripped1 Bitch called me a feminist.

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    Furkot has a dirt function in the find drawer.......I can't say I use it, as I am primarily a road rider but its covered in the Furkot thread.
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  19. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod I want to do right, but not right now

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    I am liking kurviger. Am I missing the way to get the browser map to read miles instead of kilometers? It's an easy switch in the app, but can't seem to find it in the browser application.
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  20. Davidprej

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    You say you've had so difficulties after install in your Zumo. Isn't that like saying the cruise on the Titanic was great but we had some difficulties reaching our destination? I'm not trying to be cute, but isn't the point of planning a ride on a PC to ultimately be able to have T-by-T directions with visuals on a motorcycle mounted device? RidewithGPS is the only easy solution I've found.