Free online route building programs

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by Kingsized, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. Kingsized

    Kingsized Kingsized Adventurer

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    To quote a famous TV commercial "Yes Captain Obvious". My comment wasn't meant to say I'm satisfied with those problems. Of course I want turn-by-turn directions. I'm not placing the blame for my issues on the programs I am recommending in that post. I have had the same issues with all programs that I use to build routes with my new Zumo 590.
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  2. kurviger

    kurviger Bloke from Kurviger.de

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    Thanks for the kind words. No unfortunately this is not possible right now. It works with the Android App. This is one of the next things that we will add to the website though.

    Best,
    Robin
  3. red_rooster

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    I have started using Rally navigator as my route planner. While its intended purpose is to create Rally Roadbooks, I can still export GPX files. Its an easy click along roads, reclick to add way points. export as gpx and use basecamp to load to my GPS. I don't use routes. just a simple track, and follow the line off road. I don't need turn by turn. I don't need rerouting. I can route along roads, or I can completely route cross country, like powerline roads that aren't typically mapped, but are still rideable. Singletrack entrances and exits. It is simple, quick and even has fuel stops as an option. It does cost $50 bucks a year. No, I don't work for them. Try it for free for 30 days.
  4. drrod1

    drrod1 Been here awhile

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    I have started using the MyRoute app from the developers of Tyre. The Tyre program was very easy. The MyRoute app is just as easy and offers more options. Create routes and load directly onto your gps. It utilizes 3 different maps (your choice), creats gpx, itn, several more formats. Web based so you can access your "account" with any apparatus from anywhere providing you have an internet connection. Basic program is free and you upgrade to access all the features. I am not familiar with how it works on dirt roads but it sure is slick for anything else.
  5. G-ree

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    Interesting that hardly anybody mentions Garmin Basecamp, which is the program you are led towards if you buy a Garmin GPS. It is probably because everybody who had tried it, like me, HATES, Basecamp.

    I've tried a lot of the programs talked about in this thread, but the one I found that works best for me is InRoute. Unfortunately it's an Apple product. You create routes by dropping pins along the way and designate them as either a start pin, a waypoint pin, or a finish pin. Once you designate a finish pin the program makes the route. Of course, you have to drop sufficient pins to make the route go where you want it to, and the free version of the program only allows you to have 25 pins. I find this satisfactory if I make each day of my trip a separate route.

    The problem was to find a way to get my IPad created routes onto my Zumo 220. InRoute has an option to email routes, in the form of gpx files, so I email them to myself and then "read" the emails on my PC. I download the gpx files to my PC and then transfer them to my Zumo after hooking it up to the PC. As someone already mentioned in this thread, you have to inspect the route the Zumo creates from the gpx files because the Zumo may make some changes that require adding some more waypoints to force the route to go where you want it.

    I have contacted the creators of InRoute to ask them if there is a PC version available and they said they plan to have one, but it is not available yet.
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    Base Camp is actually not bad. I have heard opinions similar to G-ree about BC but I use it frequently and am happy with it. There was a slight learning curve but it's like with everything - more familiar u r with, easier it gets. I sometimes use BC in conjunction with google maps and http://www.gpsvisualizer.com when planning routes that cannot be "drawn" easily.
  7. chrisjk

    chrisjk Been here awhile

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    I have to ask - why do you do this? It seems that you are forsaking online web apps of much greater power, flexibility, speed and ease of use for an unnecessarily complicated method of working. Much as I appreciate some of the great apps we now have for our phones, I still far prefer using a web planner on the computer if I am somewhere I can do that.
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  8. 2WheelieADV

    2WheelieADV Been here awhile

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    Seem redundant to me. If you create a route on your phone than use the phone for navigating. Why bother moving that to Zumo and re-inspect and maybe redo the route on the PC.
    Personally, I use PC (furkot) to create the route and load it to the Nav. If I'm in the "field" and need to create a new route without access to the laptop, I can do it directly in Montana by setting via points.
  9. longslowdistance

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    Just checking in.
    Until a few years back I tolerated the Garmin 40 steps to do something that should be doable in 3 or 4 steps route programming dance.
    Just my choice, but after a while decided: not worth the hassle.
    So now I check in from time to time to see if route planning has caught up to 2010, let alone 2018.
    Any good news?
    If not, when someone shoots a silver bullet through Basecamp's evil black heart, let me know. A bright new dawn may follow.
    Thanks.
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  10. Rebel10

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    I used to plan trips with Tyre which came bundeled with my previous TomTom. But since I discovered ITN Converter this is my planning tool of choice. It does not only export or convert to various formats, it also lets you map routes with different calculators like Google Maps, TomTom, Bing Map, Guide Michelin and many others - including some that do not restrict seasonal pass closings like google (which helps a lot when planning a spring-tour already before a pass is open). Also it has many map or satellite overlays, including topo maps etc. plus it is small and pretty fast.
    For online use only I like gpsies.com and motoplaner.de .
  11. kurviger

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    It always depends on what you want to do, but I think Kurviger solves most route planning issues, it's super easy to plot in a route and usually the calculated curvy route is already heaps of fun. Add a couple of waypoints or tweak some of the advanced options to your liking and you should be good to go. Export it to your navi (it supports pretty much every common format) or use the Kurviger Pro app to navigate. As easy as it gets I guess ;).
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    Thanks. I'll check it out.
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  13. chrisjk

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    Kurviger and motoplaner are my most used online desktop planners, they are extremely easy to use and have some very useful features (Great curvy road features in Kurviger and ability to mix on and off-road sections in motoplaner). They do not, however, have the waypoint/database features of Basecamp. If you need these to plan a complex multi-day journey the Furkot is your best bet.

    A great app to have open in a tab is mygpsfiles, you can drag a bunch of gpx files onto the map and display them one by one or simultaneously. There are also some basic planning features built in but I use it mainly to be able to compare routes.

    If you don't mind planning on a phone, the Locus Map Pro has the most powerful online planner.
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  14. kurviger

    kurviger Bloke from Kurviger.de

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    Hi Chris,

    I was just wondering what you meant with the waypoint/database features of Basecamp? For example in the Kurviger App you can bookmark places, but that's not available on the Website. Do you mean something else?

    Cheers,
    Robin
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    chrisjk Been here awhile

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    Hi Robin,
    Basecamp appeals to some folk because it is an all-in-one solution and putting aside the many reasons why people dislike it - including me - it does some things quite well. I was referring to its ability to store, display and manipulate waypoints and other information and manage these things in its database set up. The two screen grabs below may help understand what I meant:

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    This sort of thing is handy for a multi-day trip if pre-planned routes are being used. Having said that, I manage very well using Locus Map and Kurviger on my phone! I do think Kurviger would be improved if it had an easy database set up along the lines of Locus Map but it is probably not at the top of your ToDo list.
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    kurviger Bloke from Kurviger.de

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    Thanks for the explanation Chris. I tried Basecamp once or twice, but to be honest I couldn't get my head around it :). The Kurviger App has a similar, yet not as feature-rich function. We call it bookmarks. You can bookmark any point on the map by long pressing on the map and select "Bookmark", you can provide a name for the bookmark, but currently there are no options for different symbols, etc., it's on the todo list, but as you said, it's not the most important feature right now :). All bookmarks can be shown on the map by going to the menu -> bookmarks -> manage and check "Show bookmarks on map" (it's enabled by default). You can easily integrate a bookmark into a route by long pressing on the bookmark and for example press on "Set as end". There was also a recent topic about this in our forum :).

    Update: I just wrote a Wiki article about bookmarks, including some pictures and some more details.

    Cheers,
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  17. kurviger

    kurviger Bloke from Kurviger.de

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    Just a minor update here, we just added the ability to import/export GPX waypoints as bookmarks to make it easy to use your bookmarks from Basecamp, or essentially any other external source with Kurviger. This has been added for the free and pro version.

    Cheers,
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    This is excellent news Robin! the next want on my list is sub-folders for bookmarks so that I can name separate and name different collections...
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    kurviger Bloke from Kurviger.de

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    That's also on our Todo-List Chris :), but not as high prioritized, so it's probably not in the next 1-2 versions, but who knows ;).