From Oslo in December

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  1. Quang_The XQ Master

    Quang_The XQ Master n00b

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    Hi guys;
    I will visit Oslo in December, after business I am planning for a solo ride for couple of days just to enjoy European scenery.
    Any one has any suggestion ? Is that a good time for riding in Europe ?
    And I heard that it's difficult to rent a bike in Norway, any vendor recommended ?

    Looking forward to advice from you all.
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  2. NorskieRider

    NorskieRider Been here awhile

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    If you're planning on riding a motorcycle out of Oslo in December, you're not going to have a good time.

    December is not a good time to be riding in Scandinavia. Nor is January, February, March. Maybe early November, maybe late April. I'll bet Norway gets more snow than any other Scandinavian country.

    But if you head south (France/Portugal/Greece etc) and stay out of mountains you might be OK; those familiar with southern Europe should chime in.
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  3. alicethomas

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    As you obviously like snow & ice, the winter in Scandinavia is almost like in Siberia oder Alaska. Just leave the coast behind, ride into the land and upon a Fjell.
    Bike rental is (of course) closed, but you can rent snow mobiles and reindeer sleighs.
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  4. Mark Manley

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    It is not a good time to be riding in Europe and I doubt and motorcycle rental company would let you have one then.
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  5. Quang_The XQ Master

    Quang_The XQ Master n00b

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    Thanks guys for all the feedback. Looks like Norwegian winter is not a good choice. If I travel south to France/Italy, would it be a better option ?
    Again, any recommendation on bike rental in France ?
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  6. alicethomas

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    Of course better. But still not good.
    While Norway can guarantee snow and ice, the southern countries can not guarantee to be free.
    Daylight is short.
    Switzerland, 28th Dec. 2015
    Julierpaß - Kopie.JPG
    The situation in the picture was very easy.
    But the narrow foggy and shady gorges are more dangerous. Fog turns into ice everywhere.
    Plenty of traffic on a difficult winding and icy road.
    The motorbike rental must fear to be sued in case of an accident, because he has lent you a motorcycle.
    (For that reason you won't see a mc driving school in those times.)
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  7. nickguzzi

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    There are lots of lower altitude places in southern France that are likely to be at least bright and sunny, if not unduly warm. Lots of great biking roads in and around the Luberon/Comtat. A googlemaps looksee in those areas will give you some idea of the terrain and roads. Lots of tracks to explore too, if you can get something trail worthy.
    I have also been into the Tarn/Ardeche in late November. Weather colder, but the riding is good as long as you don't get too bold and go too far into the Auvergne.

    I was in the Luberon a couple of years ago in December and we were eating out on the terrace at lunch times. A little further south on to the Med coast and it was warm enough for polo shirts for me as a coldish acclimated north European.
    The areas around Nice became famous because English royalty and aristos would shuttle off there for the winter - the micro climate supposedly being the mildest in easily accessible mainland from UK.

    The uber plus is that places that are unapproachable in summer or even shoulder seasons become sparsely populated - you can ride or drive, stop and park where ever for photos and sightseeing, even get that prime spot on the terrace for people watching.

    As was mentioned, the big drawback is the short day length. And of course, weather is variable anywhere.
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  8. Johann

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    The best places in winter in Europe are shown in yellow on this map. You would be unlucky to get snow (but it is still possible, there was snow in the Algarve this year) and ice is non existent. Above Lisbon snow in higher areas is normal and NW Spain has proper winters. In the yellow areas it can be 15-20deg C during the daytime, dropping to 0-8deg C at night but rarely if ever below freezing. Obviously days are short and temps drop quick once the sun goes in.You can still get heavy rain and overcast windy days but the odds of that lasting for more than a few days is quite slim. The microclimate mentioned in the S. of France is a bit of an anomaly, yearly temps and rainfall figures for the area between Marseilles and the Italian border are the same as places much further S.

    Anywhere in green is going to be wet, windy and cold until late spring with a heavy chance of snow (if only for a week or two), nighttime temps below zero and ice on the roads.That light coloured blob in the midle of Norway is the same as the Alps and Pyrenees in winter.
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    Celsius or Fahrenheit?
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  10. Johann

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    Celsius. Ie: 0 Celsius=hard frosts and possibility of ice on the road in the morning.What that map doesn´t show is that there lots of different microclimates throughout Europe. Parts of W France like the Vendée are milder than surrounding regions. Anywhere with a coast is going to have warmer average temps in winters etc. In areas with mountains you can have different climatic regions within 50 miles of each other etc but in general if you want the best weather in winter there is no substitute for heading S.
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  11. alicethomas

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    But even if you find an bike rental in Oslo, you'll need 2 days to reach S-Europe. And 2 days back. Many kilometers make the rent expensive.
    Better take a plane (to Spain etc.) and start from there.
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  12. GiorgioXT

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    Cheapest option : take a plane and fly to Crete or Rhodos , there is possible to rent a bike and ride in mild temperatures - even swim .
    Sicily and Mediterrean Spain could also be feasible, but rent will be costlier and harder.

    This is what look like Scandinavia in winter
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    +1

    Many of the islands are typical tourist destinations and thus connected with nonstop flights from all over Europe. Crete might be the warmest of them in December.
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