Fuel strip fix?

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by wjrudo, Nov 29, 2012.

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  3. screwit

    screwit One more time

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    Should be about a million old fuel strips floating around. Stupidest f@&$ing thing I've ever seen. I quit fixing my 2007 GS gauge after the second one quit. If I ever come across the idiot who designed it I'm gonna bitch slap him.



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  4. WOLVERINE

    WOLVERINE Keep her pinned!

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    Any chance you could post a pic of the lighter. How do you set it up to the strip? Are you saying you just have to get it close not actually in contact with the terminals?
    Would a replacement BBQ ignition with the end pressed against the terminals do the trick?
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  5. mikegc

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    His name is Günter Himmeler and he's Director of Seating Comfort & Fuel Strips. I'm told he's a great guy but very sensative. Just sayin' . . . . . .

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  6. jzeiler

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    It would be I don't appear to have a high enough odometer count to post photo attachments (or at least I haven't figured it out yet). But I found this : http://www.instructables.com/id/Scripto-Lighter-Teardown/

    Just carry through to step 5 pull the hose and the little white block where the hose is and put it back together. This will allow you spark with impunity and create no flame. Look at the other end - it should be round with little tabs bent inward. Bend them out with some small pliers. You are now ready to zap the strip.

    If you do it on bike (use a full tank just to be safe as the strip is completely submerged when the tank is full) just unplug the cable with the four wires from the fuel flange. The sensor pins are female in that connector and male on the fuel flange. Stick the end of the lighter in the center of the fuel flange connector ( make sure you don't have a fuel leak ). And pull the trigger a few times. Hook the connector back up and start the bike. You should see a fuel level reading within a minute or two.

    If you do it off bike the stip has a female connector and you should find some pins to stick in the two center holes (small sraight pins will work) the place the tip of the lighter over the pins and pull away. If you have a meter you can check to see if you were successful before you re-install the strip. Just measue the resitance on those two pins and you should see about 2.7 k ohms. If not zap again.
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  7. Strong Bad

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    I too would like to see a pic of exactly the lighter is hooked up to the strip.

    You don't post pics as attachments on this site no matter what your "mileage" is . You use a free file sharing host like Photobucket.com. You upload your pic to the "image host" and then copy and paste the image code from the host to your post here. Fast easy and no cost.
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  8. screwit

    screwit One more time

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    Looks like a puss.. I think I could take him, here hold my beer for me.:D


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  9. jzeiler

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    OK I will go shoot some pics and set up an account to post them with. Thanks.

    Lighter
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    Bend the tabs out
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    Simulated fuel strip connector (use your imagination as I was not pulling out of the tank) with small wires inserted into the center two pins.
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    Put the wires into the end of the lighter and pull the trigger.
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    OK The shots are a bit big and so is the end of the lighter it really does not fit well into the fuel flange connector but you could still do it with some small brass tubing slipped over the male pins to bring them up and out of the connector for zapping.
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    Looks like the best way to do this is to remove the strip from the tank and zap it.
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  10. WOLVERINE

    WOLVERINE Keep her pinned!

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    Would a couple of small alligator clips work to get the terminals exposed more?
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  11. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    No, thank you!
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  12. WOLVERINE

    WOLVERINE Keep her pinned!

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    I was out in my garage and remembered I bought an ignitor from Walmart last year for the old BBQ and didn't use it. It comes with a couple of wires and should do the trick cause they are small enough to connect to the terminals on the strip just nice without removing it from the bike and contain the arc. How much voltage do these produce?

    Here's it is...

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    Can't remember how much I paid or it but it wasn't a lot...
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  13. jzeiler

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    Yes That would be even better for an ON-BIKE repair. Brilliant. Think I'll go get one. I had not thought about since I am a charcoal man and have never owned a gas grill.

    They produce upwards of 15 to 30K volts but the pulse width is on the order of nano-seconds.
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  14. AndyM

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    I just tried the on-bike fix with an igniter like the one pictured above.
    Bike is an 09 1200GSA with about 115k on it. My fuel strip died a month or so at at around 110k. I disconnected the plug from the tank and checked continuity between the two center pins on the bike. Open. I hooked up the igniter to the two center pins on the tank connector with some heat shrink over them and clicked it 4-5 times. Checked continuity again and low and behold I get a reading of 8.12k ohms .
    Re-connected the plug and started the bike. Fuel gauge still doesn't work after running the bike for about 5 minutes. I'll see if it changes after I ride to work tomorrow, 40 miles each way, and will pot the results.
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  15. jzeiler

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    That seems a bit high as a I measured 2.7 k ohm after zapping mine out of the tank. I got a reading as soon as I started the bike. Using the grill igniter I would only do it once since you have positive connection to the pins. Too many strikes may be detrimental. I won't know for sure until I get a few old strips to experiment with.
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  16. WOLVERINE

    WOLVERINE Keep her pinned!

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    I did mine yesterday...Zapped it in tank with less than 1/2 tank full. It works well meaning the wire ends fit on the terminals just perfect and the bike didn't explode :evil. Zapped it a couple of times. Got a reading of 2835ohms after doing it. Won't be riding till spring so won't know the outcome til then.
    I must say the ignitor setup works like a charm and access is easy peasy. I may carry this on bike as part of my tool kit just in case I meet someone who has the same issue or if I need to make another adjustment. Takes less then 10mins from start to finish.....:thumbup
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  17. AndyM

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    Left for work and the gas gauge read full before I was a block from my house! The range took 30-40 miles before it read up around 315. Now I've got ~80 miles on this tank of gas and the range plus the odo is right about where it should be. The gas gauge is reading about two bars down which is what I would expect at 80 miles.
    I'll be keeping an eye on it but so far it seems to have fixed the failed fuel strip :clap
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  18. PretzelDog

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    I tired the repair today with no change. I measured across the 2 center pins before and after trying the BBQ ignter. Still shows an open circuit. I zapped it 6 times on each try. :(
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    Like wise I went to Wally World and they had 'em on sale $7.00. I mounted mine in some PVC fittings and it is going in my tool pouch.
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  20. jzeiler

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    Did you do it through the fuel flange connector or pull it from the tank? I could not get the lighter far enough into the flange connector to make it work.

    Looks like the best bet is the BBQ igniter with the wires on it. Granted this may not always fix a bad strip but it is sure worth the shot.
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