Fuel strip fix?

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by wjrudo, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. Hookapelli

    Hookapelli Meat Popsicle

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    My 2nd sensor went out this weekend- that's 2 in less than 10k miles. My 09 GSA is out of warranty so I'm going to see if they'll replace the strip since it's due for maintenance. The strip was replaced last year, so I hope it's covered under the 24 month replacement warranty- but I'm sure I'll get some moaning from the dealer.

    I may try the lighter thing first. Are there sensors on both sides or is it just one? Anyone got a pin-out? I've never had a reason to look at the sensor connections before.

    Thanks!
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  2. Hookapelli

    Hookapelli Meat Popsicle

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    Out of warranty by 1 week. :baldy Iron Horse BMW wants close to $300 to replace it. So, I made my tool for about $8...

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    I KNOW that the physics behind this trick will not cause the bike to explode, but some how the thought of running a piezoelectric spark though 5 or 6 gallons of gas just didn't sit well in my brain. I began envisioning my tombstone:

    "Here Lies Infidel.
    A Stupid Fucker.
    Successfully exploited over 800 IEDs in Afghanistan
    Only to come home and attempt to run a spark thorough his gas tank
    ."​


    So I decided to extend the wire a few feet...

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    Clicked it 3 - 4 times and WHA-LA!!!! Success :clap :clap :clap

    Thanks for the nugget!
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  3. Hookapelli

    Hookapelli Meat Popsicle

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    After applying the shock, I took the bike to Bisbee for a cup of coffee and had the chance to meet Will- doing his bucket ride to the four corners on a GS-800..

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    His ride blog.

    Great guy. Cool story. :D
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  4. dyg

    dyg dyg it

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    :clap A big mahalo (TY) to all those who left instructions and their experiences! I used an ignitor from Walmart ($12) and added some crimped ends that fit the prongs on the fuel pump sensor pins - flashed the middle pins 6x. Started up bike and ran the bike around the block and it wasn't working! Oooops - forgot to plug the fuel sensor wire back in - (stupid yes, but I was too excited NOT having blown myself up) and Voila! my 2008 R1200GS (28,800 miles) now has a working fuel gauge...........I am not a religious man but.............. I am still not!! Science triumphs again! But it's ok to believe if you want, no problem here. Thanks again all...:1drink
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  5. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    After 29,xxx miles and seven years, the level sensor on my K1200R failed. It's the same part number as the GS. I spent some time today in the garage with a grill igniter. No luck. Oh well.
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  6. Hookapelli

    Hookapelli Meat Popsicle

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    were you holding your mouth right?

    Posted from my iPad using TapatalkHD (probably while pooping)
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  7. robday

    robday n00b

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    Best post so far in this thread!!!
    Not because of any technical wizardry or earth-shattering discovery, but because I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF when I saw this pic. That's AWESOME. Especially considering your background.
    Thanks for the post brother, I can only imagine what a passing neighbor might have thought you were doing. I'm so twisted, if I saw someone walking down the street I would have screamed, "LOOKOUT!!!" when they got near the bike. But that's just me.
    Day off today, I think maybe I'll go buy an ignitor and have it at the ready.
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  8. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    I fixed it. I installed new one.
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  9. JStancampiano

    JStancampiano PhotoJoe

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    Latest software beta for GS911 can calibrate fuel strip. That being said, many have just changed it and it was close enough.

    Joe
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  10. ngng

    ngng Adventurer

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    Calibrate, or disable?
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  11. Norhasken

    Norhasken Tryin' to find my way

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    To calibrate with GS 911 the fuel strip has to be completely dry.
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  12. Out of Range

    Out of Range Adventurer

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    After reading all the post on using the grill igniter:norton I sent the link to a buddy. It was amazing he was reading the same post when he received my email. His fuel gauge strip has been out for over three years. He immediately went to Lowes:pynd and bought an igniter. 20 minutes after returning home he sent me a photo of his fuel gauge working for the first time in a long time. He took the bike for a ride returned home and found the DTE was reading 343 miles to empty. At that time I was standing in his driveway waiting for him to return. That was one happy ADV member. So FYYFF. :ken
    Thank you to who ever it was that figured this out and shared with the group :deal
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  13. droffsite

    droffsite n00b

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    My 2009 GS strip gave up the ghost some time last summer. I decided to check this morning to see if anyone had a float conversion and found this thread.

    I topped off my tank, pulled the grill ignitor from my potato gun, pushed the 2 leads up against the pins (the alligator clips I had were too big to fit properly) and started clicking. After 6 clicks I had 7.6K ohms. I gave it 3 more and got to 2.6K ohms. 3 more clicks didn't change the resistance, so I left it there.

    The fuel gauge came back to life roughly 30 seconds after I started the bike, showing 93 miles range. I rode it down the driveway and back (about .3 miles): no change in range. I'll ride in to work tomorrow and see what happens.

    Many thanks to the intrepid (and smarter than I) souls who figured this out!
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  14. cjack

    cjack Been here awhile

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    Great. 2.6K is in the correct range of new. I think the last two new ones I bought are a bit over 2.5K each. I have seen them measure new from about 2.4K to 2.6K.
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  15. droffsite

    droffsite n00b

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    I rode roughly 25 miles to work this morning. The range moved up slowly from 93 to 152 miles; the bars didn't drop. I've been getting about 41 MPG, so I'm guessing (hoping) I'm just a couple more miles from the first bar going out.

    I hate hyperbole, but this just might be the greatest fix ever. Telling the story is fun, especially when I get to the "my wife said 'you're not going to do that in the garage, are you'" part. Many thanks again!
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  16. Cataract2

    Cataract2 Where to?

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    Since I'm probably nuts, I'm looking at possibly getting a R1200GS as a graduation gift (after getting a job) for myself with my EE degree next year. I was wondering, is this same fuel strip used in the 2013+ WC GS as the earlier ones?
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  17. wonderings

    wonderings Long timer

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    From my understanding they went back to a more traditional method mid 2010 and the new LC GS's do not have a fuel strip at all.

    Its a really annoying little problem that I wish they could figure out a permanent fix for. Even with a new one in my GSA I never trust it.
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  18. mikegc

    mikegc Long timer

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    You are correct, sir. I had an '09 GSA and am very familiar with the "zapping" technique. While you guys have the panels off of the tank, please check your quick release couplings and the flange for cracks. BMW is/has issued a recall of '08s and '09s because of the suspected ethanol problem.

    Mike
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  19. arrcrussell

    arrcrussell Gimme Dirt

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    For all you who "zapped" your fuel strips to get them "working" - are they accurate? I zapped mine a few weeks ago and after 2 tank fill ups, the warning light is still out, the gauge shows full when I fill it but it will not drop below 1/2 as I ride. Have any of you needed to recalibrate the strip after "zapping"?
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  20. Beecher Snipes

    Beecher Snipes Fool

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    The 2013+ bikes use a float not a strip, and are amazingly accurate.