Full-Synthetic 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by aiMhi, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. aiMhi

    aiMhi Now with Titanium

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    We attended the Rocky Mountain Adventure Riders - Silverton AMA event again this year as a sponsor. As usual the riding was unbelievable, the food awesome (over 250 massive Rib Eye Steaks served on Saturday) and company great.

    $1000's in giveaways to which we contributed (2) cases of 15w50 and 10W40 Full Syn and one case auctioned off for $100 with proceeds to COHVCO. If you want an affordable unforgettable adventure check out some more events here http://www.rmariders.org/
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  2. DockingPilot

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    Just drained from my DR650.
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    How many miles on it ?
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  5. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    As promised.
    The DR liked it a lot it seems. However the viscosity did degrade to a 10w30 weight in 1,000 miles.
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    Gunslinger1 GIVE'R

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  7. aiMhi

    aiMhi Now with Titanium

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    DockingPilot - Would you mind confirming my assumption - is this a head to head comparison with Royal Monarch 10W40 on the left and two preceding Amsoil 10W40 tests in the past to the right?

    How does your bike ride with it and shift?
    How was your oil consumption?
    How nasty was the oil when you changed it?

    Thank you for posting up.

  8. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Well my intent was not to be a head to head comparo with Amsoil but that is what I use normally. So to the right are the results from the last amsoil test that is correct. Same mileage and same engine. To apples to apples. Both samples had similar use. The only negative I sees with the Royal Monarch is the viscosity breakdown to a 30 weight If Royal was looking to improve the formula that would be where I would point them based on this UOA.


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    Oh. DR650, no oil consumption at all.
    Ever in fact


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  10. bumbee800

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    A cst of 14.74 shows the viscosity is still well in the 40w range.

    I am using the 15w50 and have no complaints with this oil after switching from Amsoil.

    I highly recommend this oil and the customer service from Aimhi is great.
  11. CHRIS_D

    CHRIS_D Been here awhile

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    Just ordered my second case of 10W-40. Great oil and price! Thanks!
  12. DockingPilot

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    That's the Amsoil sample. Your seeing at 10k.
    Here is the Royal Monarch at 11k
    Cst @9.83
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  13. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    I originally posted the wrong UOA, sorry about the confusion. Above is the correct Royal Monarch one as indicated from Blackstone
    I like it a lot though, I may mix 1 10/40 and 1 20/50 in my 2 quart sump to bring the viscous up into the 40 weight ranges.
    Customer service is A+


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  14. bumbee800

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    Ahhhh I see. Yes I was confused and a little bewildered how the manufacturers cst value for a virgin sample of 13.11 had risen to 14.74 in your 1000km used sample. I think the royal is already on the low end of 40w in its virgin state hence why it dropped into the 30w range. You may just want to go with 15/50w like I did in my f800gs.
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    I will pose your question to the factory and lab. What I can tell you is that there will be slight variations between VOA results which I have seen many a times based on hygiene during taking the samples and contamination between oil and draining methods. Either way I will send it off to the experts :thumb

    Please take note that we are currently backordered on the 15w50 1 Gallons until the beginning of Oct. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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    Also feel free to send them the UOA and so they can see the 40 weight is shearing down to a 30 grade rather quickly. It meshes with what he saw in the VOA.
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    Oh even better, we will have their lab guys from Riverside Laboratories (which is the technical arm of Royal Mfg. & Troco) look directly at these posts so they can see your inputs and if something needs to be adjusted this will need to be done :deal
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    Alleycatdad Unbunch yer panties!

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    Hi Guys - I got word back from the lab. The Vis on the test is way below their lab predictions and tests so they suspect fuel dilution of sorts. Either way Royal Mfg. has offered to send the next sample through their lab to figure out what is up if anything.


    "We aim to get the vis at the mid-point of the grade. A 10W-40 has an industry vis range of 12.5 - 16.3cSt at 100 C.

    Our formula predicts a Vis of 14.7cSt

    Without knowing the blend number I am unable to get the exact value for the blend.

    I am quite surprised that the Vis is that low after 1000 ml (correction to ml from hrs) and at present cannot come up with a logical answer. I would have automatically said fuel dilution, but nothing is listed.


    You might want to let these guys know that we have full testing capabilities here in Tulsa. Would be good field trial data for us too.

    Paul"