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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by klaviator, Dec 29, 2010.
If you can do 300 miles in a day it must be ok, but that really doesn't look very comfortable.
I was uncomfortable at times but for the most part I was having too much fun to notice it. On boring roads it would be tougher to do 300 miles on this scooter.
Interesting looking bikes those SSR's. Pretty amazing, 60 deg V-Twin in 250cc's. Good looking bike. I had not heard of those. Thanks for sharing the pics to clue in the rest of us cubicle rats.
Is the second photo photoshopped or real?^^
Real. He loves HDR.
I think SSR also makes a Grom sized bike. The 250 was a nice looking bike and the price was right. From what I have read the quality is OK but preformance is lacking. Here's a review: https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycle.../2017-ssr-motorsports-buccaneer-ar177129.html
I guess you can only expect so much from a bike that inexpensive. I think it was around $3599.
I have an Olympus TG830 camera which has a number of built in filters. I use the "dramatic" mode for many of my pictures including that one. I have never used photoshop.
The weather forecast for Suches, Ga has improved so I think I'll be able to make it to the True Grits Rally on Saturday after all.
Yea man, big difference from it to the Honda. Still for the price and size, I don't think anyone would expect it to come equipped for blinding acceleration. Sorry for the hijack, back t the pics of your touring please.
Since I posted a pic and mentioned the SSR, it's not a hijack. Personally I like having more small bikes like this on the market. If the Chinese can improve the performance some, these things may sell and then maybe other manufacturers will bring some cool stuff to the market. The SSR reminds me of the CSC Cyclone. It looks great and is priced right and may even be reliable. They just need to make it work a little better. I would expect a 250 V twin sporty bike to be able to do around 80 and handle reasonably well.
I would like to try one of those. I was afraid of changing and losing something (not sure what) before I got my Burgman. Now that I am 11K in on miles, I really have no idea what it would have been. The more I ride it, the more I like the smaller displacement bikes. Like many here I suspect, I recall as a much younger man of thinking a 250 was a big bike. yea, I'd try it.
There is a Canadian who has a blog in China. His current blog is about his 20 year old 100cc Honda scoot that looks like it has been through the wars, yet with minimal maintenance is stone reliable. The Chinese bikes will do the job; he has had many, but it doesn't take much abuse before they disintegrate.
For some it could be fun to buy the Chinese bike and see how long they can make it last, there is value in that. For most, especially those of us not mechanically inclined, the Honda would provide way more long term value and likely enjoyment.
Comparing the SSR with a Honda Rebel is an Apples and Oranges comparison. A Honda Rebel has no appeal to me. The SSR on the other hand is a really cool looking bike. In the end I won't be buying either one but I could at least see buying the SSR. Sure the Honda will be more reliable and probably performs better as well but It's just not a bike I would ever buy for myself. Also keep in mind that all Chinese made bikes aren't the same. Some are real crap and some hold up pretty well. My super 8 was manufactured in China and it's still going strong after 29,000 miles. I have no regrets buying it instead of a PCX125 which came out around the time when I bought the Kymco.
On the other hand if a beginner who was on the smaller side wanted a bike to learn on, the Rebel would probably be a better choice.
Now if Honda were to build a cool looking small bike like the SSR but with Honda reliablilty that would be great even if it did cost more.
Then there is another issue. I currently have five bikes and a garage more suited to four.
Strongly agree with your assessment. After a Google inspection of both bikes, I like the SSR far better. Not sure exactly which styling cue it is that I like the most but the SSR looks better. Aside from that, the whole idea of a 250cc V-twin just appeals to me. All that and the tank capacity of the SSR is far more suited to my style of riding. I think if it runs decently (nobody would expect it be to a race bike) it should be fun.
Just build on more bike space. A man does have to have priorities.
I also have always liked the idea of a small V twin sporty bike. Maybe something like this.
That's probably an older model but still cool. I had an MG for years and as much as I watched for Italian bikes, I wasn't even aware that MM was still in business. Just checked the interweb and much to my surprise, they are. Also sadly I saw nothing of interest there. Yea I like the one you posted above and not the new ones. Still liking the SSR best. I gotta look into one of those. I could see having one, not exactly what I would use it for but I like the looks of it. I've bought bikes for less reasons than that in the past.
There is a thread in Road Warriors about the these bikes: http://advrider.com/index.php?threa...250s-anyone-know-anything-about-them.1187284/
There is no doubt that Chinese brand bikes are getting better. It is true that in Chinese branded goods; export quality will often be considerably better than similar goods intended for the domestic market. It is also true that 'Foreign Brands' manufactured in China are usually very good. A Chinese Honda is still a Honda and most likely will be more durable and reliable than any Chinese brand although the top Chinese brands are steadily narrowing the gap.
It really comes down to price. Quality costs money, even in China. Outside of the domestic market; the trend now is to move upmarket. We are not there yet, but the day will come, likely fairly soon, when there will be Chinese brand bikes as good as the foreign brands manufactured there.
Just to make your bike pruning more of a challenge; the thought did occur to me : Since the Kymco has better suspension and ergos than the S-Max, If there was a big bore Chinese crate motor available in one of the better brands, that could be fitted to the Super 8, which bike would be more desirable?
Even if they had equal power, the Smax has a lot of features the S-8 doesn't. While I like the S-8 better than the Smax in some ways, the Smax is hard to beat. I plan on doing a more detailed review of the Smax and comparison with the S-8 once I have some time. I'll post it in the Battle Scooters forum.
I’ve read the entire thread. Outstanding. Thanks for taking the time.