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Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by cafematty, Aug 31, 2014.
Or a GS - good road bike, good off road bike
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I have done boo-ray tent camping and still camp off my bike with my doG. My present day wife and I own a 40 foot diesel pusher and tow a 17' enclosed trailer. I hate it for many reasons and desire to down size and go solo for an extended time. Part time or seasonal/handiman work combined with continued consulting and travel writing. I have also owned a 33' travel trailer with bikes and generator in the back of an F-250 4WD. Also bought brand new a gasoline 40 foot RV that had the most incredible interior layout and features, but was horrible on the interstate doing long drives. The diesel pusher is great for long haul and quiet. Air ride suspension, washer/dryer, massive lockers, etc. But again a lot of rig to maneuver in tight spots. Really you become a truck driver as you have much in common with big rigs and curse cagers cutting you off and then hitting the brakes. The use of the air horn is a pleasure when necessary.
My near term plans are to find a class A (cab over RV). Looking on line in areas such as Phoenix, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Houston, etc. there are numerous choices in the $30K range, 2002 - 2007 model year. Many with one or two slides and generally in excellent condition. A Fly & Drive. Combine the 27-30 foot Class A motor home and a 10 - 12 foot enclosed trailer. The more 'livable' interior room the better, combined with good exterior lockers. With an enclosed trailer bikes, tools and toys can be carried and unloaded easily. I plan to take a KLR with a hack, maybe a small bike like my DRZ, backpack stuff, a few fishing rods, golf clubs, skis, tools, etc. The RV will be mostly a mobile office, small kitchen/bathroom and a nice queen sized bed. Yes the gas mileage will be 6 to 8 mpg. However the Class A is easily driven, a small trailer is easy to manage behind and the initial costs to be on the road and living full time in a RV is realistic.
In any case, buy the extended service plan if you have an RV. A slide motor, hydraulics on the jacks, refrigerator, water heater, AC unit, warped heads, automatic awning, transmission, etc. can cost enough to require a loan. The service plan is always a hassle to work with Good Sams or Route 66, but still worth it especially when stranded. Our 40 foot diesel has been towed twice. Once for gasoline dispensed in the diesel engine. :huh Fecal matter does happen.
I have looked hard at a Sprinter type setup and I think with an enclosed trailer this is the ideal set-up. However to outfit a Sprinter will cost near $15 grand doing it yourself or to buy a used well sorted RV-Sprinter is easily $70 to $100K. There are rare buys in the $30's but usually with high mileage as they were previously service trucks. It's a tough call as your needs are individual, as such the Nirvana RV rig is unobtainable.
Fifth wheel camper or toy hauler is a great concept and I have sen them all from small bumper pull toy haulers or patio haulers to 45 foot monsters. However you pay more for less. The living area in the patio requires the removal of the toys and then configuring beds. Even empty, the patio area is just not used that much as I have observed. A pick-up truck with a slide in and pull a trailer is fine for short term. But spend a few days inside this coffin in a bad storm and you will go stir crazy. I could go on and on with this summary but each possible option is out there. Money and identifying your needs are paramount.
A TTR, KLR400, any small dual sport street legal bike will serve you well. A big GS or a Suzuki DL would be good for pillion and basic gravel & forest service roads as well a cruising high speed slab. A KLR or a DR 650 is a cheap bike to buy and own, truly an all purpose bike that does everything but does nothing well.
My choice, Class A with enclosed trailer. KLR hack for my doG and I to ride and camp in the boonies, a DRZ or maybe just maybe a KTM 450 EXc to ride to town for ice and beer, showers and socialization, whatever.
I give this thread 5 stars, thank you OP.
I just moved back into a house after 8 years on the road in a 5th wheel. I rode a DRZ400SM. It was good in the dirt with the dirt wheels on and was a gas on the pavement set up with the super moto wheels. It was reasonably small and light for a bike that could do highway speeds if needed. I had a custom rack built for between the cab of the truck and the front of the 5er. Now that rack is for sale if you need one!
I just moved into a house after spending 8 years on the road in a 5th wheel. I went with the DRZ400SM. It's a gas on the streets, and can do highway speeds if you have to. I also carried dirt wheels with, so it was a pretty good off road machine as well. I had a custom rack (now for sale) that hauled it on.
CBR808: That rack is ingenious. How did you load and unload it? Do those fishing rod holders have something to do with that?
The rod holder looking stubs are locators for a 11 foot ramp that slides under the 5th wheel when not in use. The ramp is a wide enough to walk up and down it beside the bike. To load, I would put the bike in first and walk it up the ramp. The tray was then swiveled into place between the foot pegs. The bike is held only by the footpegs.
This thread needs a bump and an update!
Wife and I are currently looking to downsize from our current 38 foot Class A, it's too hard to find campsites at the spur of the moment unless we stop at some commercial campground along the interstate (which we try and avoid). And when you throw the Jeep behind it your looking at a combined length of around 55 feet! Look at the new multi slide rigs, we have looked at many 30-32 footer's that are just as livable as our big one and even sleep more people (the 38 footer sleeps 4, one 30 foot rig we looked at sleeps 8 comfy). I am going to be getting a small truck (Ranger sized) so the wife can have something to drive and I can keep the DR in the bed when we are on the road.
Interesting point about the shorter RVs having as much living space due to slide outs.
Thought I would share a few photos of doG camping off the bike last weekend.
I should mention that before I got my motorhome I had a 35 foot 5th wheel. Wow it had a lot of space, probably the best one I have had for full timing except for one thing. At that time I had (well still do ) a Royal Star Venture and didn't have a way of carrying it when pulling. So that left me with my Crew Cab Dually for driving around in when we got someplace. . . Ok in the country but ever try finding a parking space in the Bay area is bad enough with a regular car. . one lot made me pay for 2 spaces!!!!
Your dog is so cute.Thanks for sharing such funny pic.Seems you both had a lot of fun.
The toy hauler will leave you more options.
Two little ones,
and two big ones,
or two quads
BTW We've had toyhaulers since 1992, some with walls to separate the garage some without, never had a fuel or oil smell in the rig, and that surpises me as my wife is very sensitive to that kind of thing.
Slag, how big is the toy box on that model? What Momentum model is that, and what is your tow vehicle? We were looking at one, but I was worried about the weight of it with my truck.
12 and a half feet garage, model 348, little over 40 foot overall, the truck is a '15 Chevy HD, 4x4 with the diesel. It handles it nicely but it's a lot heaver than my old 32 foot toyhauler. This one's almost 14000# empty the old one was 7300#.
I use a Outback Kargoroo trailer; which is half a toy hauler... Cant do pics so if interested google it. These have a side ramp loading into a front bedroom that holds bikes or dogs or kids or stuff plus a bed. We lift the ramp a little and add metal ramps so the Harley doesn't scrape... but our other bikes roll right in. Going to modify it to hold more bikes. The best part of this is the living area is much nicer than a toy hauler. It is comfortable on rainy days. Has two slides, makes a great base and tows by a half ton.
This is what my wife and I are going to do when our second oldest goes off to college in 5 years. We have four boys. Three live with us, my first son from a previous marriage (12) lives with his mom. Right now, 15, 13, 12 and 4. When 13 goes to college, we're selling (or renting?) our house in Maryland and buying a condo in Florida (Destin to be exact). I currently have a job that requires I be in the Mid-Atlantic area, however I'm looking at taking a position that wouldn't be location specific, except that I would have to travel 25-40% more often. For our four year old, we'll send him to school in FL (Bright futures scholarships!), but after he's done we'll be full timing. I'm 32 now, I'll be 45 when all four of my kids are off to college and we'll be full timing while I telework from the road until we're done or I'm ready to retire. Right now I have a 2014 F-250 with a 2008 30 ft Forest River Surveyor SV-291 that I've had for four years. I'm going to be trading the trailer in next spring for a light 5th wheel toyhauler (Looking for under 12k GVW, as I don't want to exceed the F-250's rated towing even though it's an F-350 SRW under the badge without the titled weight...) that we can use to vacation in the summers.