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Discussion in 'Latin America' started by FateMaker, Feb 2, 2013.
If you abscond without taking responsibility for the ticket the Chilean police may
in the future choose to make life hard for other travelers who find themselves
in a similar situation.
I don't suppose that even crossed your mind.
Go back, pay the ticket, and leave the country with no fear of repercussions and a
Pack a couple of extra DL's.
You were very unlucky. Usually the carabineros dont bother to take foreigners licenses because they dont expect them to be bothered to get them back.
What ticket did he write you?
If you live in Chile and get a ticket away from home you can go to your local carabinero within 72?.. Hours and ask to have the license and fine transferred to there. Not sure how long it takes or whether it would help you.
Cant imagine it would ever be a problem other than the fact that you dont have a license now unless you carry spares.
In the US if you get a ticket there's no warrant issued until you fail to appear for the court date. I'm guessing there is no court date on your ticket since they took your license as leverage. Given that, they probably don't have any greater enforcement mechanism, so I would just fly out. The initial cops that ticketed you will have no idea if you show up to pay in court or not, so the post about responsibility and future travelers seems to assume the opposite. Just like in the US, cops care about real crimes, not speeding tickets.
In retrospect: I go to my local library & 1st have them scan my documents & email to me, then color copy both sides of my DL & laminate an extra for times when I'm being responsible for my own well being not the funky cop that's trying bleeding me. I also have the county clerk run an extra copy of my registration. Itsnothebike: lighten up ?
you're right, I should do the right thing.
They (Carabineros) just want to be sure that you are going in front of the judge and pay your fine. I am Chilean and consider this very illegal but again, a colonialist way of thinking still prevail on a 'somehow' better , almost . developed country.''
In general , Chile does a lot of no sense way to manage the law. To me just complete unlawful by international law. However, you are there and must follow their rules. Better going Monday, pay your fine and go on!
Believe me , some people wait for a bus in main expressways. Sell soda and whatever at Toll plazas in between cars, not beer like in Peru but close. Ohhh but if tohse Carabineros catch you without one mirror they ticket you, Hahahaha!!, sound ironic but true.
148 in a 120 zone is classed as gravisima and is subject to a fine of up to 3 UTM where a UTM is worth 40,005 pesos.
So about $245.00.
Photocopy extra licenses or make some up with Bozo the Clown's name on them.
Its the only responsible thing to do.
I can tell you are no lawyer. You may not like the law, but withholding the driver's license is absolutely legal in Chile were, by the way, Chilean and not international law applies. And by colonialist you mean colonial, right? Please do yourself (and fellow inmates) a favor and limit your posting to motorcycling and shipping matters.
I'm interested in your thoughts on giving the officer a laminated photocopy of a driver's license?
That's funny b/c I had heard from several sources the cops won't bother giving foreigners tickets. I blasted the main road south from Santiago to the lakes district and passed a number of cops while traveling well above the posted limit. One cop had his radar gun pointed right at me and didn't even bat an eye when I flew past him.
And I would have no problem using a laminated dl in Latin America. I met a number of folks using them.
I would like to hear first hand experiences from people actually doing it. It's obviously illegal but you can probably get away with it. Most important question is, do you want to have a criminal record of unpaid tickets behind you as you travel the world? Are you just quitting after this ride and never show up again in any country you traveled through? If so, I would like to be remembered for more enjoyable offenses... What do you want to be the script in your tombstone?
You are right, Pedro. This behavior isn't right!!! These globe-trotting, habitual-law-breaking criminals must be punished. Do you think beheading is too weak?
I have no problem with paying for tickets I deserve. I'm used to dealing with local Policia in Baja California where you you have to pay the "mordida" for running a red light or stop sign that isn't there. Usually you ask if you could pay the fine to the officer who pulled you over and he "takes care of it" for you. Funny, how you can get the fine reduced on the spot from $100 down to $20 by showing an empty wallet.
So I guess the question is how legitimate are the traffic stops? Is the corruption bad enough that these guys/municipalities are using tourists as geese with golden eggs? If so then a bogus copy would be fine by me along with continuing out of the country. If it is legit, then my bad, give him the bogus copy and then go pay the fine.
Don´t worry Bubba, we are not in the US, no death penalty here (you won´t get life in prison for a third minor offense either).
Two pieces of advice if you want to hear them: 1. Don´t even think of trying to bribe a cop in Chile. It will surely end with you in jail. 2. Producing a counterfeit license (i.e. a xerox of the original) is a much more serious offense than speeding.
I will remember your advice! Thank you!