FYI: Direct comparrison between touring screen & touratech lip

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  1. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    In case this helps anyone who is trying to decide on a touring setup between the KTM touring screen and the stock screen with the touratech lip add on.. I thought I'd post a photo I just took with them side by side:

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    Why did I buy both?

    Here's my new touring screen configuration :D
    It is going to be awesome for my 4000 mile to/around Montana in July :thumb

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  2. Davestr

    Davestr Been here awhile

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    So what is the result when you ride it?
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  3. Jim Colombotos

    Jim Colombotos Been here awhile

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    Im not the original author on this thread....
    For me (5-10 29" inseam, the touring offered better shoulder protection but still had buffeting around helmet. Also when doing some canyon speed runs found the windscreen came right at my line of sight which bugged me....causing me to switch between looking over or thru screen. Ended up cutting touring screen down to black fade area.
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  4. adiablolex

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    you ride too much...not fair :bluduh

    but good on ya regardless!!!

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  5. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    What about the fancy smancy Carbon Fiber Rally Screen you were running?

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  6. adiablolex

    adiablolex Lost again

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    I was gonna inquire about that too, but thought to patiently wait instead...

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  7. Englishmatt

    Englishmatt Been here awhile

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    So, I don't wanna pee on the cheerios....but it's not the height of the screen that's the issue....it's the width. I have Stock and Touring screen, I also have the Cee Bailey High Screen and the Toura-tech lip/flappy thing.

    Since all of them are pretty narrow, none of them were worth a damn until I added some screen wings on the side!

    What was happening is that the wind was whipping around the sides of the narrow screen and smacking me in the head. If I moved BACKWARDS on the seat, the buffetting reduced greatly. Likewise, If I moved forward....same thing. Sitting in my normal position....the buffeting is awful.

    The best solution I've found is the cut off screen. I get clean air in the chest, no buffeting.

    So I'm 6ft 3", with a Bill Mayer Saddle, Shoei Hornet Helmet and don't mind the wind on my chest.

    I am riding from GA to MOAB this weekend and back (9-10 days) and plan to use my cut off screen for the trip.

    Just my .2c...hope it was helpful.
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  8. Geek

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    I'm 6 foot, Renazco, Shoei Hornet Helmet - and prefer no wind on my helmet on long distance, multi-day rides (and clean air for offroad/local rides).

    I *LOVE* my carbon fiber short screen. I consider its use for offroad and hot rides when I want air in my face (i.e the equivalent of a cut off screen but looks way better). I used it on last week's 700+ mile ride and loved it... but this week's ride will be much windier (out to Dinosaur National Monument).

    I rode 100+ miles today with the touring screen with the touratech on it, and unlike Englishmatt's experience, the air is completely calm on my helmet (I'm also 3 inches shorter than him). My girlfriend riding on the back this evening said she had a bit of buffeting but for me at 70mph I had my visor up and no wind in my face whatsoever :thumb (I like riding with my visor up). The top of the wind blast is over my helmet. The wind off the sides goes around the side of my helmets (you can trace the buffet line with your hand). The only downside for me (besides it is ugly) is that it is high enough there are times I find myself looking through it.. though for the most part I'm looking over it (it's about nose high). It is going to be great for winter riding and long tours where neck fatigue, etc is an issue (i.e. consecutive 750+ mile days).

    I'm leaving Thursday/Friday/Saturday for a mad tour of North West Colorado and I think I'm going to try the stock screen with the Touratech extension for this trip. That way I can take the extension off for the offroad (500+ miles of dirt and the sand dunes we're going to play in in Walden) and then throw it on the for the sucky stuff (the pavement jaunts) or the late evening stuff (deflecting bugs).
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  9. Geek

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    I've only put 5000 miles on it in the last 2.5 months :(:

    ...but the snow's finally melting :evil
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  10. M.Mars

    M.Mars híppos leukós

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    Where did you get that carbon screen ... or did you make it yourself?
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  11. Blue&Yellow

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    Sorry but what front tire is that? The rear is a 908 right?
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  12. adiablolex

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    front looks like a TKC....now how 'bout that windshield? :evil
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  13. themotojourney

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    I'm 6' 1", but long legs and medium sized back (!), and wear a Shoei Hornet like quite a few of us. I've tried a normal screen - lots of wind noise, some buffeting, touring screen - wind noise reduced, buffeting above 70mph and a touring screen with touratech clip on spoiler - quieter above 70mph, less buffeting but frankly dangerous to look through/around.

    The verdict? Touring screen only. Best overall compromise and when on an extended run or trip fewer fiddly things to pack, unpack and then misplace!

    I have also tried the cut down stocker but that's not an option; have you experienced the UK's current mix of cold, wind and rain?!
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  14. Brokein2

    Brokein2 Been here awhile

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    NO Windshield for you!!! :rofl

    I am now wondering too....
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  15. laramie LC4

    laramie LC4 crash test dummy!

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    i think the buffeting has as much to do with the helmet as it does the screen. i changed to a new "dual-sport" helmet and that significantly reduced the buffeting compared to my dirt helmet w/ goggles. it has a much larger space for air to pass under the visor and this i think makes the difference.

    just my $.02,

    laramie :beer
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  16. smj

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    I am 6' 4", 34" inseam, and just bought a 990 R... Been wondering what to do with the shield - and thinking about trying a lip, or louver, on the top.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    After only 200 miles, I find that the wind hits me hard on both shoulders and the top of the chest. I have a hornet helmet and a scorpion, and have not tried to use the hornet yet due to the buffeting. I don&#8217;t really want a larger windscreen, and had hoped that a louver would open the bubble of calmer air enough to sneak my hornet on again. I have no experience with louvers, do they work at all?
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  17. HeatXfer

    HeatXfer Bad knees

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    I'm 6'4" and currently working on my own solution to the >40mph head buffeting. I'm a cheap-skate at heart, but I'd have no problem spending $150+ for a solution that I didn't think was ugly or ridiculous looking if I could return it if it didn't work. Apparently, I'm a bit of a hammer-head too, so that's why I'm going to try my own. I am consulting a mechanical engineer friend who builds and flies his own airplanes.

    At this point I've got a simple add-on to the stock screen. I'll post pics and results once I perform some real-world tests, hopefully this weekend. Wish me luck

    I've read and seen some naca duct installs but that'll come later.

    "The freeway is my wind tunnel"
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  18. smj

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    I'll be watching for your results! Thanks in advance.
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