G/S dedicated thread for various upgrades

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by cenji, Mar 9, 2008.

  1. cenji

    cenji out4fun

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    The idea in a nutshell:

    I like to suggest this thread to be a specific and dedicated place where only R 80 G/S UPGRADES or IMPROVEMENTS are discussed, ideally explained with pictures to get a better idea. This would make it a lot easier to locate topics of interest and less time consuming when compared with going through other inmates personal thread, hoping to find the desired upgrade.
    This site benefits greatly from those very savvy inmates that have their personal thread for their specific custom-built bike. Lets include those threads with a keyword mentioning the specific upgrade that was addressed. Let's include knowlegable mechanics, parts suppliers that offer G/S parts, because not everybody has the machine-shop in house, years of tinkering experience, a ton of time or the extra funds. But we could still share their expertise, their willingness to help by creating space within this thread.

    This thread could be "THE G/S COMPLETE UPGRADE MANUAL" showing ideas HOW TO CREATE a better performing, safer, more comfortable or cooler bike with one touch of a button. Nothing more, nothing less.


    UPDATED March 10.2010

    Found this thread's last use back in October of 2009. Clearly making the statement that my initial ideas for this threads intended use has failed. A thread that is not used in half year is of no use to anybody that has just purchased a G/S , because he would only come across it by screening the first 35 pages in this forum. As there is some good info in this thread that is worth circulating, I thought why not screen the first 35 pages and see if there is anything relevant to the G/S. Of course there is plenty, like maintenance, repairs, upgrades, trips....

    So I am suggesting that this thread become more like a place where links could be listed to inmates personal threads. It would show the title and who contributed it. I have only screened till October 2009, if there is someone that wants me to add other threads that I have missed within this period and later, I 'll be glad to add them.



    Topics handled in the first seven pages :

    Luggage
    Sidestand
    Frontbrakes
    Turnsignal relocation
    Rear tire size options
    Subframe - reinforcing


    Links that are dealing with G/S issues in personal thread listed by users:

    Infra's 1981 R80 G/S Maintenance and Improvement Thread
    infracaniniophile

    Why the G/S? Why go through the pain and expense for an old bike?
    Beemerguru

    So I sold my GS.... and then I went shopping
    solo lobo

    1983 R80 G/S - Rebuild
    ski_bum

    ADVR R80G/S registry.... who's got one?
    Solo lobo

    R80G/S upside down brake conversion
    One Less Harley

    R80 G/S rocker shaft question
    Nitram

    G/S BM317 Ohlins baseline settings?
    SOLO LOBO

    R80G/S top end noise, Ting-Ting?
    Batoutoflathonda

    Tanks to fit an R80 G/S
    One Less Harley

    R80 GS - shock absorber
    Siliguri

    Another G/S on the road
    bgoodsoil

    R 80 g/s PD heading for The Gambia
    Thunderpants

    G/S valve adjustment..hot
    meijer's trails

    R80G/S: the longer she sits the more stubborn she is to start
    Dlew

    Wrenching on my R80 G/S, an ongoing therapy getting previous post in one spot
    One Less Harley

    G/S farkles that don't kill the bikes originality

    Leakey '81 R80 G/S
    gcmacarthur
    The Raven

    R 80 G/S Seize- O the grief, O the sorrow!
    Jadon

    R80g/s decisions
    The Raven

    91 GS front end to G/S....???
    SVARTH

    R80G/S clock installation
    Dlew

    R80 ST & G/S Exhaust Collector Question
    mark1305

    G/S solo seat's
    dougs650

    does your G/S take a while to "self sustain" during a cold start?
    meijer's trails

    BMW R80G/S transmission seals
    Batoutoflahonda

    G/S owners....Please Help...!!!
    SVARTH
    Rob Farmer

    R80gs Rear Disc Conversion
    Phreaky Phil

    R80GS Race replica )
    Cgoodwin

    R80 G/S Y-piece...
    SVARTH


    UPDATE10.31.09

    G/S no spark, ideas?
    Eddieb

    BMW R80 G/S Suspension upgrade
    Jadon

    G/S 80 1981 Cable Routing
    Jadon



    UPDATED June 15, 2010

    G/S custom dashboard
    a_bakla

    R 80 G/S Sito exhaust dynamometer results
    meijer's trails

    R 80 G/S problems
    GTC

    R80 G/S mileage
    530posseMAN

    Raven's R 80 G/S stupid question thread
    the Raven

    Wow,upgraded G/S forks
    R12 Battletub

    R80G/S Renthalbars
    hypnofonic

    R80G/S Led light
    kadesan

    Bent G/S frame
    NavyF4

    R80G/S loose change sound
    One Less Harley

    R80G/S heated grips mystery
    SoloLobo

    R80G/S article+history... I am so proud
    The Raven

    G/S Solo Seat
    dougs650

    the old G/S crashbar option thread
    canderson88

    Ohlins shock sleeve for Bm 317
    holdmybeer

    The Voodoo Subject R80G/S bearings


    G/S suspension needs
    kadesan

    91 gs front to G/S
    svarth

    R80G/S charging issue
    the Raven

    1983 R80G/S rebuild
    skibum


    UPDATED JANUARY 2, 2011

    Changing tanks r80 G/S listed on 06.30.10
    530posseman

    G/S Final drivehousing cover removal
    a_bakia

    What does your custom G/S weigh?
    StephenB

    86 R 80 G/S spine lube problem
    fowlerwild

    1981 G/S what are they worth?
    Mr. Goose

    R 80 GS restoration-spun rodbearing
    hackednhanoied

    R80G/S oil change PITA
    The Raven

    Looking to buy R80G?S Value tips listed 07.30.10
    TheRadBaron

    G/S soloseats
    dougs650

    YSS for R80G/S rear shock

    320mmBrake upgrade for G/S
    One Less Harley

    81 G/S rear main seal installation depth
    solo lobo

    any G/S brothers or sisters in dire need
    R12Battletub

    r80G/S Tach Issue
    Roma dakota

    Vendor Plug for G/S wheel bearings, no more shimming or greasing bearings
    One Less Harley

    r80G/s vs R100GS vs Siebenrock conversion
    Ras Thurlo

    Does a R100GS fork make that much difference over the stock r80G/S forks?
    One Less Harley

    Airhead ol pressure/rpm values
    a_bakia

    Airhead monolever G/S vs paralever GS offroad
    Ras Thurlo

    Rear Shock Length on R80 G/S
    hardwaregrrl

    Airheads G/S rear subframe onto GS
    Ras Thurlo

    R80G/S vs R80ST rear end geometry
    hardwaregrrl

    Bing Carbs tips
    crankshaft

    r100GS forks transforms the r80G/S, my experience
    One Less harley

    White Power Forks on G/S
    gsjam

    Extended swingarm on r80G/S
    gsjam

    Wrenching on r80G/S an ongoing therapy
    One Less Harley

    81G/S rebuild thread
    hypnophobic

    G/S and pre '85, grease those wheel bearings!
    Anton Largiader

    Homemade bashplate for r80G/S
    ghedo

    81 r80G/S ignition timing troubles
    boingk

    r80G/S brake shoe recommendation
    Gravytrain

    Ohlins r80G/S
    gsjam

    R80G/S not for sale, but
    r2adv

    G/S frontwheel in a GS frontend
    Beemerguru

    R80cc to R1000cc
    2xdisco

    R100GS jetting 800 to 1000 conversion
    2xdisco

    What tank will fit an 81G/S
    Nitram

    r80G/S Owners manual
    Fudmucker

    G/S Paintjob
    The Raven

    r80G/S Hpn modified swingarm
    infracaninophile

    My new R100GS sidestand
    Walkingbear

    1981 r80G/S enduro
    Pokey66c23


    Udated June 2011:

    R100gs and r80g/s wheels
    The Raven

    R80g/s to R100GS fork signal mount options
    The Raven

    G/S welding, are they all this bad?
    The Raven

    R80g/s Coil questions and suggestions
    The Raven

    motorcycle movie list
    Bloodweiser

    r80 gs bash plate
    gsjam

    R100GS subframe fitment on R80g/s
    The Raven

    New G/S or GS logo
    The Raven

    BMW R80g/s clutch questions
    R12Battletub

    R100/R80 GS Headlight
    walkingbear

    G/S aux fuel options
    The Raven

    i've removed my R80G/S trans, will you check it out to see how i'm doing?
    meijer's trails

    R100gs USD Fork Conversion
    mcma111

    BMW R80 G/S Upgrade...?
    Fudmucker

    Nice g/s build
    R12Battletub

    G/S swing arm extension suspension question
    Beemerguru

    G/S intake manifold
    LBourque

    is there a correct "phase" for shaft to out-flange on an r80g/s?
    meijer's trails

    The correct way of soldering two pieces of wire together.
    LasseNC

    Am I crazy? R100gs Transmission repair
    zbg8000

    80G/S with 100GS forks question
    ontic

    The GSification of a Poor Unsuspecting RT ( 1 2)
    Beater

    ORGS build up ( 1 2)
    x3300

    Constant Water Crossings w/ Airhead, Issues?
    tennessee thumper

    Took an '81 R80G/S around the world: mods, spares, tools, problems, etc.
    roadsacallin

    R80ST gets the GS Treatment ( 1 2 3 4 5)
    Airhead Wrangler


    R80gs Rear Disc Conversion ( 1 2)
    Phreaky Phil

    HP2 Old School Project
    matteo

    R80g/s carb setting
    The Raven

    r100gs pistons in r80g/s, tuning questions
    bgoodsoil

    R80GS, starter goes "clack", what's broken?
    Kokopelli

    Hypnofonic's 81 R80 G/S rebuild thread..
    hypnofonic

    1981 r80g/s $11,000.00???
    Udo

    R80 G/S overhaul
    CAB

    R80 G/S 1981 Windscreen
    LBourque

    R80GS or R100GS
    Mc B

    Custom R80G/S eye candy
    roadsacallin

    why is my r80gs running rough at full throttle?
    meijer's trails

    G/S post build questions.
    The Raven

    r80g/s FD movement
    The Raven

    320mm Brake upgrade for G/S
    One Less Harley

    Show me your G/S tank!!
    scalpel

    UPDATE 12/2011 and 6/2012


    Ontic's 1981 R80G/S build-up thread
    by ontic


    An Unholy Union II: Wp Extreme 50mm Conventionals on a G/S
    by SOLO LOBO


    R80ST gets the GS Treatment
    by Airhead Wrangler


    My first rebuild, R80g/s '87
    by TomBigz



    An Unholy Union IV - 48mm KYB Forks On An Airhead
    by Box'a'bits


    Reality: R80G/S vs F800GS
    by larryscustomcycles


    R80G/S Rejuvination
    by 4puf


    Kenda tires on a G/S?
    by frichti


    ORGS build up
    by x3300


    R80G/S....rear shock...
    by frichti


    i need a donor trans for my 81 r80g/s, what years fit?
    by meijer's trail

    BMW R80G/S Frame Reinforcements.
    by walkingbear

    The GSification of a Poor Unsuspecting RT
    by Beater

    So I sold my GS.... and then I went shopping....for a G/S!
    by SOLO LOBO

    '84 R80GS Restoration???
    by zanichbu

    R80ST fork swap wisdom needed
    by SPO

    Infra's 1981 R80 G/S Maintenance and Improvement Thread
    by Infracaninophile

    R80 G/S rear shock length?
    by BMWayne


    R80 G/S front rotor suggestions
    by LBourque


    G/S rich on one side
    by Freeagain

    G/S swingarm + driveshaft extension 50mm
    by cenji


    WP 48mm USD fork
    by cenji


    R80 G/S and loweres pegs
    by Caddy82rats


    One Forked Up Rubber Cow
    by rediRrakaD


    preparing an airhead for RTW
    by roadsacallin


    1986 R80G/S Paris Dakar
    by Kokopelli


    R80G/S PD side-stand
    by frichtie


    Took an '81 R80G/S around the world: mods, spares, tools, problems, etc.
    by roadsacallin


    R100GS center stand on a R80G/S
    by hardwaregrrl


    My '86 r80 g/s pd
    by netsuke


    R80 G/S brakes upgrade?
    by deangs



    1986 r80g/s
    by frichtie


    An Unholy Union: DR forks on a G/S
    by elmoreman


    motorcycle movie list
    by Bloodweiser
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  2. elmoreman

    elmoreman takin' a break, boss

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    an interesting idea. The problem is, all the electrical upgrades also apply to r100gs and other airheads, and the suspension upgrades usually demand a thread of their own. Ive found that a wise use of the search function has served me well.

    most of the basic upgrades (electrical/suspension) are pretty easily found, and beyond that, the real custom jobs deserve their own thread.

    Searching some of the megs-threads on this site is just as complicated as searching the site itself. The DR650 thread in thumpers is a great example.
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  3. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    Using the site's search function is a bear, but using google's site search makes it more..... bearable? :huh
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  4. cenji

    cenji out4fun

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    Let’s start with your comment: An interesting idea. Although I appreciate the comment, it comes with the question attached:” How could the whole G/S clan benefit from an interesting idea being implemented?” , this the whole point. I might not have the correct approach to it, but there is got to be a way to use the websites search engine to spit out the requested topics in a more sophisticated fashion. As even the more experienced users are struggeling with the unbearable results, these addtional comments came to mind.

    Just to prove elemoreman and stagehands comments! Typing in the keywords G/S upgrades in the search field, in my HMO, should list the new thread as one of the first pulled up matches, as the keywords are matched in the headline of thread. But you get roughly 500 threads and the new thread is listed as 65 on the second page. This problem is even worse if you type in suspension upgrades g/s, you get everything from scramblers to dr/s and klr's.

    I am aware of the fact that there is an overlap to other beamers, but that’s what makes them so attractive,. Why not using this as the advantage to support this thread than an argument against it? This thread is in no way meant to be discriminating to any other gs built after 87. It would be counterproductive to exclude great input from people that are willing to share what they learned from there r 100 gs, given the fact that it can be applied to the r80 G/S.

    And if people are not happy with the title of the thread , we can change it to a more easily searchable thread, and describe it as G/S to gs upgrades, from 81 to 95. Maybe we can ask the website builder what thread name would grant better locating/positioning in the actual search.

    My knowledge is very limited when compared to the heavy hitters, but I am sure that by using the search engine I am missing out to read what the other 250 hidden ones have to contribute.Because finding them with this serachengine is requiring endless amounts of time. I am lucky if I get a couple hours in every other day, as there are too many distracting things in life, from family ,job,..... I want to ride the bike as well,....time is limited!

    I see this threads strength in having a focused approach to locate threads to my favorite g/s, especially as the search engine is not being very helpful at most times. I rather have a double coverage of specific topics that are covered under the personal custom bike threads and this thread, than missing out on valuable information.
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  5. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    I think the best answer is a a thread with a sticky that is titled "G/S upgrades"? We have been pretty luck with people respecting thread integrety with the stickied threads.

    If we went with a seperate weg page that collects the wisdom deposits it into similar larger groups (suspension, charging, braking, etc...) it may help those of us with G/S's, but will also take away from adventure rider, which is actually the reason I now ride a dual sport.
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  6. cenji

    cenji out4fun

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    My initial, idea was to create/design a webpage that would just deal with the G/S. The problem is, I have no clue how to do it, I am not computer savvy, have no programming skills,.......People that I ask were all for it, but nobody has access to someone who would do it as they are as computer illiterate as I am. Besides that, it would separate us form the other users of adv rider. That is not needed and it would make the logistics unnecessarily
    difficult.
    The Adv-rider-site is a great tool as a platform, a wonderful communication-tool, but lacks the sophistication I am looking for , as well as that the ones that have commented in this thread.

    Ideally one would have a G/s thread, with subcategories, like suspension, parts suppliers for used and new items, g/s meets, motor with sub-categories, electrics,.... almost like a sophisticated manual. That would eliminate the need to purchase a $75 , 80 gs manual that was sold on ebay today. It would also eliminate the redundancy of topics. Less server space needed. Maybe one should talk to the designer of the website, if there is an easy way to implement a bike specific sticky thread they would approve of.
    In MHO, The website would greatly benefit from this process of stream lining, without loosing its essential mission.

    I suggest our FIRST CURRENT TOPIC: the so often discussed tank.

    I have the original/ stock g/S basic tank and it gets me by if I have only time to do a short 100 mile trip. I don’t know how many times I have searched and looked for the PD tank , Heinrich, Hoske, HPN or Acerbis availability, used for sale ,on google, on BOA, on craigslist, …. With some success, yes I can purchase them from individuals for an outrageous amount. There is absolutely no need to it, because:
    Any bike specific community is so savvy that it won’t take long to spread the word to see who is in the market for a long-range tank at a reasonable price. I am sure with better visibility of a specific thread on ADV rider site, we could easily have 25 people that are willing to spend 400 dollars for a well designed tank. Maybe something in between the Heinrich and the HPN to address the flat-surface on the top to place a regular tank bag and the better lower gravity position of the HPN.

    All those inmate, who have a serious interest in purchasing a tank for a fair value would greatly benefit from a specific thread within a thread, dealing just with tanks. At the same time, such great resources as solo lobo , would greatly benefit from knowing that he is reaching the people he needs to reach to make this idea reality to build a new designed tank .

    I think we can take this website to an entirely different level of functionality, starting with user-friendliness, utilizing the various skills that come together here, gaining easily knowledge. The last thing we want to do is too waste the talent that is so apparent on this site.

    Just like any good book or manual has a index with subcategories, one can make this one centralized hub, “The Source for the G/S”, while avoiding time consuming searches. And that benefits everybody.
    SO, HOW MANY ARE IN THE MARKET TO BUY A DECENT TANK FOR A FAIR PRICE?

    I AM IN.
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  7. cenji

    cenji out4fun

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    Sorry,the tank credit should have gone to peashootersteve.
    Nevertheless, solo lobo has a great access to various suppliers. And he is maybe looking for a specific tank as well. Since he has the Heinrich, maybe we can find him the standard sized one in white.
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  8. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    I actually have a standard size one in the mail to me now...

    Honestly, if would highly doubt that finding a new $400 longer range tank is a reality. You are talking about a bike out of production for many years and with declining numbers.. that is unless someone finds an aftermarket tank from a japanese (in production) dual sport that fits...

    The current <$400 larger tank option already exists... it's the stock R100GS tank.
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  9. zenben

    zenben all roads are one

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    Contrary to what's been stated, I like the idea of a G/S mods thread (sticky). I have a few projects in the works, (including a custom tank), and don't mind documenting some of those projects here. Caveats;
    Everyone will have their own ideas about what improves the breed, and several owners maintain websites that provide reference material already.
    I'm sure you have bookmarks of your own, but here are a few basic ones:

    Parts book:
    http://www.xmission.com/~wendell/GS/GSParts.html

    Vendors:
    www.hpn.de
    www.wuedo.de

    www.touratech.de
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  10. StephenB

    StephenB G(/)S ... what else!

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    I like the idea of a G/S thread or sticky or even a complete website but you will be limiting yourself: being part of the ADVrider community allows a lot more "cross-talk" between KTM, Suzuki, Yamaha, Husky BMW etc owners on the same platform at the same time ... which allows for those genius ideas: "Why don't I try this!".

    A one-thread-does-it-all isn't ideal. A good example for thread degradation is the DR650 thread in Thumpers which was already mentioned before: try to find a topic in there and all the entries to it. Gets very hard to navigate and is not user friendly at all.

    Don't force it, it'll happen ... or not.

    I have 1997GB (yep, about 2 Terrabyte) of available space left on my webserver ...
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  11. Cordless

    Cordless Two Wheel Addict

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    I nominate the name

    G/String
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  12. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    funny!


    I can't find it again, but I sent Putts a link to someone who has the real R80G/S telescopic fork repair manual on-line as a download.... he should post that link here, or I will look for it.

    Good point about the Dr650 thread!
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  13. cenji

    cenji out4fun

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    I understand the point that Steven is making with other threads that have become “user-unfriendly”. Let’s also assume that the likelihood of the adv rider website won't allow for a partial redesign with an index and subcategories. That doesn’t stop us from using what it available as a tool now, the whole audience of G/S enthusiasts, but avoiding those things that made other threads less user -friendly .

    What can be improved from the very beginning? Let's put our heads together. Here is one solution? I am sure others have even better ideas. So verbalize them, now is the time.

    In order to make the thread as easy to screen as possible, each reply has the ability to be headed by a title that would clearly describe what it is about, like HPN front suspension, excellent supplier of used parts, transmission rebuild, THE IDEA IS TO BE AS SPECIFIC AS POSSIBLE. With roughly 32 entries per page, it won't take much time to screen just the title to see if there is valuable information you are looking for. Less than 20 seconds. I am willing to spend this time, even if I have to go through 10 pages. Because I am assured, if this is the main thread being used to post G/S topics, I will find it. I am almost guaranteed to find something valuable, because the forum of users has proven itself, as they have an interest and desire to share knowledge. And that benefits everybody. If it is meant to happen, it will happen.
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  14. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    GString as opposed to GSpot is still a pretty good idea :lol3
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  15. Cordless

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    Fixed. Thanks, Stagehand.

    Any site that results from this will instantely be on my favorites list. I will be checking it for info on:

    bags and racks
    bearings
    rear shocks
    electrical add-ons
    seat options
    windscreen options
    front brake options
    spline lube shortcuts
    seal replacements (fixing those ubiquitious oil leaks)


    and that's just my G/S
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  16. Solo Lobo

    Solo Lobo airhead or nothing

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    To digress a bit, as far as I know there are only two options for aluminum panniers for the G/S (excluding all that mount to the stock bag frame which is weak and blows)

    Moto-sport pannier complete set (bags, racks, liners) $900
    Bernard Tesch - the godfather of world travel--- much more than $900

    anyone else out there making bags/racks?

    those that don't:

    Jesse
    Touratech (para yes, G/S no)
    Happy Trails
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  17. Wirespokes

    Wirespokes Beemerholics Anonymous

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    I think the thread should be a sticky and the originator continually edits the first post. On the first post should be the list of topics for message titles. When someone posts, they copy and paste one of those titles.

    Also in the first post should be the list of links. As new ones get posted in messages, they get transferred to that first post.

    I've used google to find stuff in Advrider before. Works pretty good. :D
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  18. elmoreman

    elmoreman takin' a break, boss

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    Did HT stop making for the g/s? Mine are from there...
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  19. cenji

    cenji out4fun

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    I talked to the owner of Caribou and he confirmed cases for the 100 gs , but doesn't have anything for The G/S.That was at the 49 rallye last year. Happytrail I am not 100%, but a friend of mine inquired a few years back and they didn't offer them. Maybe that changed. Elmoreman, when did you buy yours?

    Speaks anything against using the title as headline for the topic discussed? If not , let's use this free feature as tool to allow for easy screaning of replies.
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  20. elmoreman

    elmoreman takin' a break, boss

    Joined:
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    Location:
    Elmore, VT
    Spring/Summer of 2006. Took a while, but I'm very happy with them and their customer service. I dont know why they couldnt make them again, since they probably have the plans for the rack somewhere, and the cases themselves are all the same, regardless of the bike.
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