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Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Jedi Apprentice, Oct 11, 2016.
When I did mine, I got some steel cabinets off a repair shop that got them for free from their parts supplier. Simple metal cabinets with locking doors that are used for parts. I got three of them side by side hanging above the workbench, and I keep them full of all the little crap that constantly gets lost.
Steel stud walls are assembled with a type of self-tapping sheet metal screw. If loads like cabinets or shelves are planned or anticipated when the wall is installed, wood blocking can, and typically is, installed to carry these loads.
I would assume that your stud wall does not have blocking. You have two basic choices: cut out the drywall and install blocking where you need it or live with the restrictions that the lack of blocking limits you to. The two methods you mentioned are your limiting factors. These apply even if you install something like french cleats (external blocking effectively). Be very mindful of the load limits on the wall anchors you use. At studs, you will need the self-tapping sheet metal screws. Flanges on most metal studs are slightly narrower than wood studs unless they are structural. Gauge on metal studs will vary too (possibly less metal for screws to bite into)- from 25ga. for interior partitions to nearly 1/8" thick for really heavy structural studs.
I'm not as familiar with metal studs, though it is obvious that they can't take the cantilever loads. Can you attach a sheet of 1/2" plywood over the area you want to put the cabinets, then attach the cabinets to the plywood? Would that disburse the load enough to be safe?
That would be an excellent way to distribute loads. Just need to have screws into each of the studs. I'd go not less than 12" O.C at each stud. The screws do need to be long enough to penetrate the plywood, gyp. board and at least 1/4" thru the stud. So, not less than 1 1/4" long. Don't even think about using drywall screws- they are too brittle for this application.
Look for "Metro" rack on CL, the 4 feet ones will fit large totes..
Costco sell but they have become crazy expensive, I usually get them for about 30%-40% of retail.
Akrobins are the bomb too
Actually this storage system has work really well (Besides collecting saw dust like crazy)
Make the shelfs with a 10 degree angle, find 4 gallon square food containers (about .80 cents $1.20 per) and go to town, for some reason nothing falls off, even small items and you only waste about 5" of space (Wedge)
3/4" construction grade plywood a Dado blade to make the structure much more stable and rigid and you are in business.
Actually my favorite are this "Totems" (I rather have this that a inclose tool box anyday (Because I'm messy and disorganized, they are on wells and I move them around or park them as I need them.
The house large Akro bins and then I use the outside walls for hand tools and power tools.
Now this one has three layers and a big "Cord collector" box at the bottom
And then Bins and bins and more dins, so very useful is almost like a library, very efficient to find what you need it you have a lot of crap like I do..
I have about 250 of them in different sizes (whatever I can find for really cheap, basically)
I hang my bikes from the ceilings...but you have to have high enough ceilings to do it and long arms. As for metal studs I have always told my customers I would not chance putting cabinets on them unless properly blocked. Even then I shy away from it, you never know how much weight they will put in the cabinets, or what the next owner will put in it.
Half inch ply would help but the weighted cabinets will want to pull the wall away from the metal studding...gravity`s a bitch.
I really don't like the idea of fastening to the metal studs. Thinking about removing the mtb from the middle rack and installing cabinets to the cinder block wall. Any suggestions on anchors to use and where to place them?
I am looking into the tire rack suggestion as well. I would wall mount to the cinder blocks directly above the cabinets. Here is an example I found on Amazon. It has high ratings, but looks flimsy. I don't like the idea of putting 100+ lbs of wheels and tires directly above my car and motorcycles!
Concept is right- the telescoping cross-bars look a bit flimsy to me. though. Wall brackets look strong enough. The last one I made was of 1 1/4" x 1 1/4" x 1/8" black iron. Used a short piece of chain for the angle piece- let me fold it flat when I didn't need it. Cross members were the same angle section. All bolted together. Worked great for my autocross tires. If you have block wall available, I'd probably mount it there. Keep in mind that you only have the thickness of the block's face shell, about 1" to 1 1/4", to work with for your fasteners to hold onto. Unless, of course, you happen to be a mason and don't mind knocking holes in the block, filling the cores with mortar or grout, then patching everything back...
There are lots of masonry anchors that will work for cabinets and racks. Check their load ratings first before you buy. Whatever you hang will weigh a bunch more than what you think. Follow the instructions, and you will be good.
+ 1000 on the used cabinets !
I bough these at a auction for $300 and did nothing to them , except put them up .
Bench and top of bottom cabinets is , 2 pcs of 1/2 ply . Just cant believe how well these worked .
Sadly - after ten yrs of work and life , this is how that very bench looks today
But I am so glad I bought those used cabinets for $300 YAY
I built the sections on the floor. Easier to do it that way for me as I put these up by myself.
I used Ikea cabinets. Been good for five years.
Hello, cleaning garage is the most time consuming job. Wall cabinet is the best option to arrange your garage stuff. I have heard good reviews about movers in Queens NY from my friend who provides garage cleaning and cabinet service. I think you should check online for more ideas.
I used a vertical shelf with large, clear Rubbermaid containers, each with a list of contents inside facing out on one of the ends of the container.
Made these cabinets and one to the right out of 3/4" birch or maple plywood. I forget. The materials were delivered the morning of my ACL knee surgery and I started doing the cutting the next day while on crutches and Vicodin. White wash stain and automobile clear top coat. Custom order Snap-On sticker
I built a set out of Advantech flooring for a customer. Even the face framing, shelves, and doors.
Strong, flat, cheap($22 a sheet at the time).....I left out they were heavy!
Rolled them with silver hammer paint.
They came out way better than I expected and only had about 300 dollars in materials for a 12 foot run....broke all the edges with a small round over bit and did very little sanding....the hammer paint covered up imperfections and people think they are metal.
i got an old stainless top kitchen locally for $100, gave some of it to the ole man for his new garage and this is what i ended up with.
2017-04-22_12-26-20 by rian munro, on Flickr
still a work in process, electrical to hook up yet, then line the walls.
Nice Trans Canada Highway 1 sign you have there.....
I noticed that as well.