Garmin 60CSx firmware v3.90 probs?

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  1. mnormand

    mnormand Been here awhile

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    I see on another forum some folks had probs after using Garmin's Web-updater and upgrading their firmware to this recent v3.90 release dated 3/30/09.

    I was about to do this, but stopped for now. Any new information or success stories here? :ear

    Thx!
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  2. tbirdsp

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    I just tried it. The first time it said eveything seemed to go fine but at the end the 60Cx let out a long beep and displayed "software missing":eek1 :huh

    I ran it again and now everything appears fine. I had quite a scare though.
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  3. tbirdsp

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    Also - I hadn't updated mine for a while so I think I still had v3.30 The first time I ran the update it said it was updating verion 3.30. After the failure, on the second install it said it was updating v3.10 :dunno

    I should remember this by now, but how do you find the current software version on the unit? (60Cx).
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  4. Countdown

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    I always read what the changes are before ever updating anything. If I don't need some new feature that corrects "POIs in French", I don't take a chance.
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  5. mnormand

    mnormand Been here awhile

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    I hear ya Jerry, at first glance I thought this sounded ok on paper ...

    From Garmin's site....

    Changes made from version 3.70 to 3.90:

    • Added support for maps greater than 2 GB.
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  6. tbirdsp

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    Agreed, but I hadn't done mine for a while so I thought I probably had some worthwhile updates in there.

    Again, it *did* work ok the second time...
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    That would be a good one for sure!
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  8. tbirdsp

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    Hey, how do I display the current software version on the unit?
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  9. mnormand

    mnormand Been here awhile

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    a quick google produces..

    <TABLE summary="Q and A Set" border=0><TBODY><TR class=question><TD vAlign=top align=left>1.
    </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>How can I tell what version of firmware is in my Garmin GPSMap 60CSx?
    </TD></TR><TR class=answer><TD vAlign=top align=left></TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>MENU > MENU > Setup > ENTR > System > ENTR > MENU >Software Version > ENTR
    </TD></TR><TR class=question><TD vAlign=top align=left>2.
    </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>How can I tell how much map memory is in use on the GPS?
    </TD></TR><TR class=answer><TD vAlign=top align=left></TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>There are a couple of options.
    On recent firmware, Go to the Main Menu, then select or press Tracks:Enter:Setup:Enter:Data Card Setup:Enter:Menu:Card Info:Enter
    On any firmware, but you can start Mapsource and read maps from the GPS. In the tab for 'maps' it will display a total of the space used.
    Alternately, you can put the GPS into Mass Storage mode and view the disk usage on it from your favorite computer.
    </TD></TR><TR class=question><TD vAlign=top align=left>3.
    </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Why do I sometimes see two firmware version numbers displayed?
    </TD></TR><TR class=answer><TD vAlign=top align=left></TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>If you see two version numbers displayed, the first is the main OS of the receiver. The second is the version of the code used by the Sirf receiver circuit.
    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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  10. tbirdsp

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    Thanks. I tried searching Garmin's site, ADVrider, and then a general Google and didn't come up with anything. Maybe because I was using "software" instead of "firmware" :dunno.

    I am showing version 3.90 now.
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  11. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    3.90 worked for me first time. Just lucky I guess.
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  13. mnormand

    mnormand Been here awhile

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    Venturer I pm'd you some info from elsewhere, hope it helps you.
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    I got it but I own a Streetpilot 2610. I will sign up to get deeper into the forum. Thx.
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    9Dave Bazinga!

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    This is interesting. From this thread 60csx powers down when routing

    Thanks for the info, John.


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  16. tbirdsp

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    I forgot to mention - I did the update (both times) without using WebUpdater, I manually downloaded it.

    I subsequently *did* run WebUpdater, because that's the only way I know to update the GPS chipset software.

    I may just run WebUpdater again and reinstall 3.90 just to be sure.

    Eidt: reloaded via WebUpdater. We'll see how it works. I'm going on a trip next week...
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  17. 9Dave

    9Dave Bazinga!

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    I ran the updates from the webupdater. No problems.

    I wasn't going to, but I was walking through Sam's yesterday and saw a 4gig card for $14 so I couldn't pass it up. I can just upload the whole of the US from NT and a bunch of R&R segments for states I usually ride and be done with the map uploads.:thumb
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  18. DR. Rock

    DR. Rock Part of the problem

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    I believe the following experience is related to the 3.90 change: I have a 60csx and provide IT support for LDF's 76cx. Sometime shortly after it was released I applied the update to both units, previously working perfectly with 2gb cards, in anticipation of using 4gb cards. I used the 60csx with a 2gb card last weekend to navigate the TNJT and it worked flawlessly.

    I turned my attention this week to loading maps and routes and waypoints onto both units for Mobius III. I had bought two 4gb cards, one for each. I created two mapsets, one for riding locally around the NE US which was comprised of sections of CNNA 2010 and Topo 2008 which I loaded onto two 2GB cards (1 for the 60 & 1 for the 76), and a second mapset for Mobius III which consisted of AZ, NV, UT, OR, and CA segments of CNNA 2010, Topo 2008, Topo West 24k, and individual free topo maps for AZ, UT, and NV from gpsfiledepot.com. This mapset I loaded onto two 4GB cards for primary use, and two 2gb cards to carry as back-ups.

    Well, after all was said and done, there was a problem: After powering down the 76cx the only way to get it to fire back up would be to unplug the usb cable, and remove a battery. Then it would start back up. Testing once it was restarted revealed no obvious abberations.

    Having two units makes troubleshooting significantly easier. The 60csx was working fine with the 4gb card, however when I swapped in the 2gb back-up, it exhibited the same behaviour as the 76cx. Putting the 60's 4gb card into the 76 fixed the problem for that unit.

    5 of the 6 sd cards initially were causing the problem. Interrogating the faulty cards with Mac's disk utility revealed nothing. :scratch Reformatting one card to Fat32 and reloading the maps didn't solve the problem. :scratch Zeroing out the data (god that takes a long 'effing time) and reformatting the card to Fat32 and reloading the maps didn't solve the problem...:scratch But this did:

    I used the GPS's USB Data storage function to access the sd card on the 'puter -- NOT an external card reader (I know, its a lot slower). I reformatted the offending cards as a Mac OS journaled disk. I ran disk first aid and made sure it was fine (they all were). I reformatted the card as Fat32. I ran disk first aid agian and repaired any problems -- (most had something about next free node not free??).

    I then unmounted and remounted the Fat32-formatted disk, and reran disk first-aid until it was consistently squeaky clean. I unmounted the sd card, and rebooted the GPS and made sure that the unit would cycle off-on correctly. THEN, and only then did I reload the map set. At that point, it didn't seem to matter if I let the MapInstall program load it up, or if I just copied the Garmin folder containing the map image file directly from my hard drive onto the mounted sd card.

    I'm not sure, (and don't particularly care) which parts of that ritual were necessary and which were voodoo :dunno. But it worked. 5 out of 5 offending cards are now swappable into each of the two units, and everything is humming. :thumb
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  19. tbirdsp

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    When WebUdater came out I had lots of problems with it (can't remember what though). That's why I normally just do the updates manually. Probably just use updater from now on...
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  20. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Dr Rock, I had a similar problem following the update to 3.90 on my 60CSx.
    The first mapset I loaded seemed to be fine, under 2Gb in size but right on the 2025 limit for map segments. The unit recognised the 4gb card but not the mapset. I had to remake the mapset, this time with around 1980 map segments, and reload it to the card. then it worked OK. Beats me.

    I used the web updater program to install mine and it seemed to work first time. I did have a little green progress bar appear at startup for the first few startups, but that has gone away now, and I have no idea what it was signifying anyway. Again, beats me.

    :dunno
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