Garmin announces the new GPSMAP 276Cx

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by mattebox, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. SKINNY

    SKINNY Been here awhile

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    Please keep us updated on the CNNA performance...I've been trying to talk myself into buying the CX to replace my Montana.
    I'm on my 2nd screen failure and don't like the touch screen anyway.
    I had a 276C and was perfectly happy with buttons....
  2. MelvinKowznowsky

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    Thanks for the detailed review, KHPossum. I'll just keep on using my 276C for as long as i can.
  3. dstepek@gmail.com

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    CANADA - Black Friday Deal on 276cx

    Automotive bundle $700 CAD at radioworld.ca (lower $150 from what I have seen from anywhere else)

    They only ship to Canada :(


    At this price, this was the deal breaker for me, was going to wait till beginning of riding season (April for me) hoping for new revamped unit from Garmin. But could not pass along that deal.

    Because riding season is over, here up north, I was only able to test the unit in the car. Being prepared by the 72 pages long horror thread on this unit, my expectations were low,

    So to my surprise the unit is not so bad, it is usable.

    Came with 2.7 and CNNA (City Navigator North America) loaded into the internal memory.

    Maps speed redraw in City setting is acceptable for me when riding.
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  4. bemiiten

    bemiiten League of Adventures

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    Will a new 276cx & Garmin City Navigator North America work in conjunction with my tried and true Mapsource , or is it only compadible with Basecamp ?
  5. khpossum

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    My car GPS works only with BaseCamp. Like the automotive 276CX bundle it has a downloadable / upgradable version of CNNA. You can download/copy it to your computer with IIRC Garmin Express and then you can work it, as I do, in MapSource. I will verify it this weekend for my 276CX, my download speeds are slow so I usually let it run overnight to update CNNA and upload it to my computer.

    I don't know how that works if you get a uSD with CNNA .

    Edit: to download a map update to your GPS and your computer go to Garmin Express - "map update" - "installation options" and then select "Computer and Device"
  6. khpossum

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    further update from my previous post, now using CNNA 2018.30:

    I still believe the screen update is acceptable at 5 and 8 mile scale for my use. Those scales represent 85x50 mile and 135x80 mile on the GPS. Please let me clarify what happens when you pan. As soon as your cursor gets to the end of the screen the newly asked for area is blank. When you let go of the cursor the screen refreshes within 1 or 2 seconds. I tried this in rural areas. Over a large, heavily buildup area I would say a 3 mile scale (30x51 mile area) is probably the zoom out limit if you want to pan. The old 276C refreshes as you go along more or less, so the CX is definitely not as good. No arguing about that. If you zoom our further refresh performance degrades. No arguing about that. I did go back to my 276C and at wide zoom areas it takes quit a bit of time as well to refresh. Just not quit as bad, but i cant see that ever bothered me in the past either.

    I also downloaded an OSM map covering Holland and Germany and see that, just like CNNA over New York, a much tighter zoom area is needed for a reasonable pan refresh due to amount of map data that needs to be dealt with. I don't think this will impact the use of the CX at all while riding without panning or zooming.

    What I have seen during the few rides I have made is that with the larger screen I don't have to zoom out further then a 3 mile scale, so the slower refresh does not bother me. Much different then how i used my 276C. I may have to, once a long while, zoom our further and then the refresh rate is a hassle with the CX. Doesn't happen enough to make this GPS a no go. This is just how I use the CX. The much larger and clearer screen, combined with quit a few new added features make up for it for me, easily. I hope Garmin will see fit to listen to its customers about fixes for some of the other issues.

    These are the map setup settings I used with this testing:
    Detail level: most (it doesn't seem to change refresh speeds)
    Autozoom: off
    No shaded relief or contour lines
    Map speed: fast
    Freeway: 500 mi, Highway 500mi, local rd 10 mi (not so sure how what that did, need to review

    So far I have not had any problems using MapSource with the CX. I still prefer it over BaseCamp, so I was glad to see that.
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  7. Mike_MRS

    Mike_MRS Been here awhile

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    Guys is there a loop on the unit for a lanyard/safety cord? I can't see a hole on any image of it
  8. nibby

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    Stop being a tight ar&& and buy one, you will then find out yourself ;)
  9. khpossum

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    No, pretty stupid they forgot about that. I just noticed it last night. But you can tie the lanyard to the metal clippy thing for the battery compartment.
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  10. RonKZ650

    RonKZ650 Been here awhile

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    With the rugged mount no need for a safety cord. It will never fall off the mount, trust me. I hit a car at 40mph with a Montana in the rugged mount, the motorcycle sustained $10,000 worth of damage, but the rugged mount still held the Montana without damage to either. The 276CX uses the same rugged mount, which is great. I've been following this thread with interest hoping the 276CX can replace the Montana, which works for me mostly OK.
  11. khpossum

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    My CX fits pretty tight in the cradle. The top locking bar does not really snap in place very well. I push the bar down to make sure it is locked in. For this kind of investment I'll use a lanyard. It isn't so much the cradle I don't trust, it's the operator who has issues once in a while doing something boneheaded.
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  12. CLANTECH

    CLANTECH Cruising Southern Africa

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    I think it has to do with the cradle. On my Landy it fits perfectly and the lock snaps tight without a helping hand. But on my KTM I have to press the button hard to make sure it’s locked.



    Hanging around, planning my next trip.
  13. mudbreeder

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    it appears topo pro maps V3 for Norway is not compatible with the CX
    i already have several other topo maps in light and pro versions so i assumed this would be compatible, have to check it before i buy again, it seems compatible with montana
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  14. nibby

    nibby Been here awhile

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    Just received a 276 and it come with the European recreational mapping (not sure how good that is)
    What's the difference between the Topo light and Pro versions on the Garmin site and what would you recommend for following routes off road.
    I was going to download the free OSM mapping rather than the paid option from Garmin.
    If anyone has any experience with mapping for mainly off road moto?
    cheers
  15. khpossum

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    I wrote this last week.

    That behavior went away and I have not been able to replicate it. Characters are now added to the search box as you press the buttons.
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  16. justlookin

    justlookin Been here awhile

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    Received new 276 Cx a couple days ago. First things I noticed was how physically big it is and is noticeably heavier than the Montana. Also it has no lanyard attachment point and I will have to create something, don’t want to chance losing it off road. I was loading it with waypoints last night and accidentally sent a very long track - TAT - and wanted to delete it. Kept locking up every time and I tried restarting a couple times. Finally computer came up and said unit had updates available. It had 2.5 on it and 3.6 was the update. The long track opened right up after the update. I really like the buttons and feels like my old GPS3 and 5, just hope it is as dependable as those units.
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  17. khpossum

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  18. KevinMTB

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    I just put a double sided sticky take mount made for a zip tie on my 276c back in 2010 and it's still holding fast. It gave me an anchor point to add a lanyard, it's come out of it's mount several times and it's always worked at retaining my GPS. Just make sure to let it set for 24 hours for it to reach holding strength. IMG_2898.JPG
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  19. khpossum

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    It is all a function of how much people have put into it for a particular area. It is all volunteer work. Since the OSM's are free why not download the area of interest to you and check it out. They can be really good, much better then the Garmin maps. I started planning a trip this summer thru parts of France and Italy and the level of detail of the OSM maps is great. I really have not found any areas that OSM did not have great information, except some of the less traveled / remote areas in the US. I use both CNNA and OSM.
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  20. bigboyxl

    bigboyxl Been here awhile

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    I have 2 mounts (stocks AMPS and bicycle mount - same AMPS but without wires) and had 2 units (second one was a replacement) and both fit exactly the same very snug and tight.
    I noticed when you take the back/battery cover it locks snaps just perfect as a previous Monterra.
    I think it’s only the tolerances a bit off at the cover or GPS unit itself (of course odd for the device that expensive) but on the other side that motivates me to lock it on the safety screw in cradle every time....


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