Garmin announces the new GPSMAP 276Cx

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by mattebox, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    @khpossum

    the last screen shot before the video ended shows the unit caught up again:

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    or it partially did? looks like it went back to the beginning of acceleration ramp, instead of where your car was on the ramp, but at least it figured out which road and direction you were on/heading.

    again, it's not whether or not I believe you, I just thought the video did a good job of showing off some errors.
  2. khpossum

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    I have reported this bug to Garmin. Please use support@garmin.com to let them know, that is probably helping in setting their priorities. I have gotten responses, so they are reading these reports. Not so sure about fixes, we'll see.
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  3. thumpididump

    thumpididump MacGyver

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    OK, so I've spent a couple of days driving around with the new 276 in my car, alongside my Nuvi 2699. I ditched the OSM Germany map and bought City Navigator Europe for it. So, both devices running the same Garmin maps. I also disabled the basemap, and the pre-loaded Europe Trail map.

    Driving on downtown city streets in Berlin, and with a little highway driving as well, my thoughts are that the overall performance of the device is quite comparable to that of the Nuvi 2699 --which I consider to be quite good. I've used my 2699 in my car for 2.5 years and I really like it.

    There are some quirky things with this unit, for sure and some of these things may get better as I get more used to the differences. I know my 2699 and my Montana inside and out when it comes to finding/adjusting settings, and I am struggling to find the same settings on the 276 but I am sure that in time this will get easier.

    So far, though, I'm quite happy with no major gripes except the price for the unit, and the price of the new map adds up to a lot of cash. Could have bought a shiny new iPhone.



  4. shu

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    I just got mine yesterday, and today was the first day I've used it. Like thump I've been using NUVIS and Montana for the last 7 years, and have the menus memorized from them, so I'm struggling a little with my 276cx menus a little today. But...here's what I've noticed so far about how to find a waypoint by name...

    1. Start with FIND button

    2. select Waypoints and ENTER
    It will read - Waypoints from current location- and the first one in your list will be highlighted in the banner.

    3. 'ENTER' to select that highlighted waypoint.
    This will yield a single blank line, with it's first blank character highlighted. But, no keyboard.

    4. Use ARROW UP to begin to scroll through an abbreviated list of your waypoints.
    This list is not complete, they are references- like the reference words at the top of a dictionary page.

    5. As you scroll through the list, notice that the first letter of each is highlighted in the banner area. You are actually going through the alphabet with each ARROW UP.

    6. When you arrive at the correct first letter, hit 'ENTER' and your complete list starting with that letter will appear below.

    7. Scroll through the list until you find the desired entry hit ENTER and GO TO.

    It's actually much easier to do than to explain. I don't know if there's another way to do this but it works for me.

    ................shu
  5. shu

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    Other notes from my first day of GPS276cx:

    Conditions:
    The unit arrived with software version 2.6- I guess it's been in the box for a while. I updated it right away to the current v3.6.
    Used it in my car to go through greater Metro Denver to take my wife to the airport. High density of roads etc. Used mostly on Automotive Track Up (the fat purple line.)and sometimes on Track Up and North Up. Using CNNT North America 2017 and OSM United States 2017.

    Start up:
    Boots up fast. Probably no need for the stay-on vs turn-off option that the Montana showed when I'd shut off my vehicle. It's realy much quicker than the Montana was.

    Map and vehicle marker:
    No problem with the map keeping up, nor with the vehicle marker being in the right place (Within reason....I don't stare at the marker when I'm making a turn- I try to watch the road instead:bmwrider). I do glance at the countdown of meters to my turn-- down to about 20-40 meters-- and that countdown seems accurate to me. It seems to behave just about like the Montana I've used for the past 4 or 5 years.

    Turn Pop up:
    With all the negative comments I was expecting not to use this. However, I tried it using 2 different options and it worked well.
    1. Show pop-up view for turn with a long press of the NAV button. Worked great to give a preview of the next turn and then returned me automatically to my main map. The Montana had a similar function- press the turn info on the screen to get the next turn screen.

    2. Show pop-up view for all turns automatically. Several seconds before the next turn (concurrent with announcers voice) the pop-up would appear for 3-5 (?) seconds as a preview. Then right before the turn, the pop-up would appear and stay. Directions and distance to turn would appear on the right half, and a simplified map view of the turn in the left half. The vehicle marker followed me accurately through the turn in the left hand section. Immediately the map would return to my main map.

    In a couple of places one turn was followed by another within a 100 meters. In these cases, the right hand screen would change its verbal message, but the left hand screen would not change- it just kept the same map view and the vehicle marker moved through both turns on the same map. Then, the pop-up disappeared and it returned to the main map once again.

    I couldn't find any fault with the pop-up turn screen. I may find it annoying after a while, I suppose, but it appears to work the way a good designer would want it to work.

    Screen:

    Wow. Great visibility in varied light conditions. Large view.

    The screen refresh does get slow out past 20 km, but it's really no slower than my Montana was- maybe faster, I can't really say. Not much different than my expectation, I guess. (It's faster than the refresh on my Google maps on my computer at home! :pep.. but my internet speeds suck.)

    Buttons:

    I'm working on it. I can find a couple of them without looking, but I need to develop my muscle memory for where things are.

    Zoom buttons - Fabulous. If the Montana had had a workable zoom, I'd probably have stayed with it.

    Menus:

    I've been through most of them in setting the unit up, but they're different enough that I can't run through them on the fly, yet. I don't think it will take me too long.



    Bottom line:

    If I hadn't been reading about the problems with this unit for the past year, I don't think I would have thought twice about any of it's operations today.

    ..........................shu
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  6. DonM

    DonM Do-dah Do-dah

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    Does anyone have an idea if the processor is more than adequate and the software is the stumbling block. With such varying preformance reports it seem there are ‘good’ ones and ‘bad’ ones.

    :jjen
  7. khpossum

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    The 276C had a menu option to add text to the bootup screen. The CX can also have text on the bootup screen, but no menu item to do so. Instead connect the GPS to your computer, go to File Explorer and from there to the Garmin internal memory and the Garmin directory. You will find a file "startup.txt". Open it up with a text editor.

    Change the line <display = > to <display =3> for a 3 second startup message with for instance your contact information
    Below the line <!-- Type your message on the next line --> type up to 3 lines of whatever information you want displayed.

    I enter my name, phone number and email address in case I ever loose it.

    Then save and close the file. Make sure it saved in a plain .txt format and not in something else like word doc format
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  8. DonM

    DonM Do-dah Do-dah

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  9. Garry H

    Garry H Been here awhile

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    They are all the same
    Different reports are most likely
    1, people praising the unit no matter how it performs for obvious reasons !
    2, some users are easily pleased
    3, users find it works for them for how they want to use it
    4, users who have been very impressed with the old 276c and expected a lot more from the new one
    5, users like me who can't believe how poor the performance is for a top line unit in 2017
    I still think the processor is too slow for the screen resolution and that is the reason for the poor performance
  10. justlookin

    justlookin Been here awhile

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    Shu,
    After playing with the waypoint find feature for quite awhile, I had been able to bring up the blank line. I was determined that it would bring up a keyboard at that point , never thought about using up/down arrows. Thanks for the help. I am planning a big adventure trip next summer and was thinking I would have to dump all the extra waypoints so I wouldn’t have to wade through so many on the road.
  11. paquo

    paquo Been here awhile

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    nice, all it needs now is a lockable mount so someone doesnt borrow it while you are paying for gas
  12. khpossum

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    FWIW, the AMPS mount has a security screw, better then nothing I guess. Put a nylock nut on your ram mount and you have some protection against a grab and run.
  13. sblaylock

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    I'm looking at buying one of these to replace my 478 for my R1200GS. I have the locking mount for the 478 from tt and was looking at getting one for the 276cx. It says it needs the "Garmin's plastic power cradle". I see there's an accessory - "Montana 6xx AMPS Rugged Mount with Audio Power Cable", which I'm assuming is the plastic power cradle. However, in the box with the base 276cx is a "AMPS powered mounting bracket with marine bail mount". Is this the power cradle attached to the marine mount which I could just unscrew and use in the tt locking holder?

    On the mapping side, the base unit has no useful maps and I was looking at buying City Navigator North America NT - download. As City Nav requires 2.5 GB and the unit has ~6 GB free, I'm assuming I can download everything to the unit. I see there's a City Nav on SD as well from Garmin. Is there any advantage to the SD version over the download, or vice versa?

    Thanks,
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  14. aviator

    aviator R1200GS,F650GS,DR350

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    1) using Download Version, you can decide yourself whether to install CNNT directly on Garmin internal Device memory or on SD card. This version of software is from then on associated with your device. You can´t use it on a second device. You can add additional maps to your SD card.
    2) using Garmin CNNT SD card, it is protected, you can´t add any further maps on THIS SD card. But you are able to use this Garmin CNNT SD card in any other compatible Garmin Device. It will not be associated with your device.
    3) in case that you loose your SD card or it is broken, you have to buy a new one. As owner of Download Version, you download it just again without any charge.
  15. TripleThreat719

    TripleThreat719 Track Addict ADV Wannabe

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    Garmin also offers the 276cx with CNNA Lifetime updates from the factory, preinstalled to the internal memory of the device.

    Personally, if you are going to buy CNNA, I think that is the best option. Buying it that way also gets you the automotive mount so that you can use it in a vehicle.


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  16. sblaylock

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    Thanks aviator for the clarification on the different CNNA installations. I know there has been talk of map redraw lag and was also wondering if it would be faster off the internal memory or the SD card. I'm thinking the internal memory would be quicker, but wasn't sure. I only have the one device and don't plan on getting another. My vehicles all have builtin GPS and I always have my phone if needed in the car. This GPS will be dedicated to the GS as the 478 is.

    TT719, I was looking at the bundle, but the price is more than "the sum of the parts"... that I care about, assuming the CNNA download for $111.00 CDN comes with lifetime updates. The base unit is $729.95 CDN and the Automotive bundle is $899.95 CDN.

    I'm still wondering if the included AMPS Powered Mount will work with the TT locking mount.

    Thanks,
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  17. aviator

    aviator R1200GS,F650GS,DR350

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    Yes, the included AMPS Powered Mount gets part of the Touratech Mount.
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    Thanks aviator.
  19. Eltjo

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    But the download doesn't come with lifetime update
  20. khpossum

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    The downloaded CNNA in the automotive package is with lifetime updates. At least here in the USA, don't know about in Nederland.

    In response to a previous question: It is hard to say, but I don't think I see a speed difference between maps on my SD card on in the internal memory. If there is a difference it is not obvious.