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Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by GarminMac, Apr 14, 2008.
Ahhh. It probably does contain Mapsource for the PC, a PC version of CN and a Mac version of CN.
Bobcat has not been operating properly for me so I thought I'd start all over again and began by using Mapconverter to convert City Nav NA 08.
At about 95% of the way thru conversion I got the first window below in typically unintelligle Windoze-eze. This happened repeatedly. I went ahead and finished the process, hoping naively that it wouldn't matter. I loaded the file to an SD card, then tried to unarchive it on my Mac, which resulted in the second window.
Anyone have any ideas?
I had the same problem and I have have no idea what the fix is on a PC. I "think" I remember reading somewhere that it's an archiving issue and a different Windows archiver (than WinZip) would work. It was frustrating because I'd already converted the Canadian MetroGuide without issue. What worked for me was to do the conversion on a Windows install on my MacBook.
I'm just trying Bobcat for the very first time. Last night, I installed 184.108.40.206, and attempted to load the maps I converted.
When I use MapManager, it loads the maps fine (apparently).
But, when I fire up Bobcat, and go to Edit Unlock Codes, it shows the unlock code for the map I just loaded via MapManager, and "map product not installed".
If someone could tell me either:
a) a way to fix this, or
b) what files MapManager's moving/creating, and their location so I can just do it manually
I'd appreciate it.
(P.S. - Yes, I correctly and successfully converted the unlocked maps from my PC using MapConverter. They were moved to my mac by burning them on a DVD, and there is no file corruption. I have the uncompressed .gmapi directories on my Mac, containing the .gmap and .ucx files for each map.
I noticed the presence of a Maps subfolder in the Garmin subdirectory of ~Library/Application\ Support, containing an UnlockCodes.ucx file. Is MapManager supposed to just put a copy of each into that Maps subfolder? because it's not.)
EDIT: I manually copied the .gmap and .ucx file from one of the converted map packages into ~Library/Application\ Support/Garmin/Maps, and started Bobcat. Bobcat now recognizes that map, and allows me to select it from the pulldown.
Seems there's a bug in MapManager.
EDIT #2: I manually edited the UnlockCodes.ucx file, adding a 2nd unlock code by cutting and pasting the appropriate section of XML, and copied over the second map, and it is recognized as well.
Also, MapManager seems rather fond of throwing SIGABRTs. If you'd like more detailed error reporting on it (since MapManager doesn't seem to have the error reporting capability that Bobcat does), I'd be happy to provide it. I can reliably reproduce them.
I had the same problem.
From the research I did, you have two options:
1) Replace the bsdtar that was shipped with MapConverter with a newer version, which seems not to crash, or
2) do not use compression in MapConverter (this is the method I chose, as I didn't much feel like spending the evening hunting down bsdtar just so I could save a bit of space creating a tar'd, gzip'd copy of the data that had already been converted -- which is what bsdtar does. ".tgz" is a common Unix filename extension indicating that a directory has been run through the tar utility, and subsequently compressed using gzip. And that's bsdtar's function.)
Of course, if you go with #2, you'll discover that Windows doesn't natively support burning files to DVD the way it does with CD, and you'll have to use a third-party application to do this.
Alternately, if you have a 4GB USB flash drive, you could just copy the uncompressed directories over to it, and then copy them from it to the Mac. I believe you can pick up 4GB flash drives for about $20 these days.
I'll confirm what others have posted on this one..
In my experience, the file is ready to go, it's just failing during the tar process. If you acknowledge the message, it will result in unusable files.
However, if you leave the error message open, you can grab the converted and zipped archive, which is A-OK. It's in the folder you specified for the output of the conversion process.
Copy that zip archive to the Mac and unzip it. You'll be able to load the map with MapManager just like if the process actually worked.
If the process worked you'd end up with a gz file (or is it just tar'd... can't remember now). Sort of like double compressing a file.
That's what I had to do; the 2nd time for my Zumo. The 1st time, for the 276c, all the maps converted with the compression just fine.
Not quite. Tar is not a compression utility; it is an archiver. Tar creates a single file with the contents of one or more files within it. There is no compression taking place. You generally use tar when you have a directory full of files and subdirectories you wish to move as a single file. The single file will be the same size as the original files/directories given as arguments to tar.
Gzip is a compression utility, and is used to compress single files. Thus, it is very commonly used to compress the single-file output of a tar operation, to make it smaller and more manageable.
Rather than ignoring the error message, one can choose not to select "use compression" in the MapConverter dialogue when asked, and you'll have a .gmapi directory (which appears as a package in OS X) when the process completes. If one copies that .gmapi directory to the Mac, MapManager should do the right thing with it (assuming MapManager doesn't crash or exhibit other bugs, that is).
If all else fails, you can view the contents of the package and use the procedure I outlined a few posts back to manually copy the map file and unlock data to the same place MapManager would put it for use by Bobcat.
I successfully converted maps, installed Bobcat (first version), etc.
Seeing some map support, I installed the most recent version and it works fine for route planning, etc.
However, when I download info to the GPS, waypoints, routes are downloaded but then I get a "ping" then a box comes up "Where is Garmin MapInstall.app"?
All I have installed is Garmin Bobcat and Garmin MapManager...what am I missing?
I'm leaving for a two-week trip Monday and I was hoping to take the MacBook instead of my ancient PC laptop.
Thanks for any help.
Shoulda looked a little harder...
Is there a way to select and delete multiple points on a track?
Nevermind, got it
i also submit i couldn't use the compression feature in mapconverter.
Using uncompressed maps worked fine.
OK - maybe I'm missing something very obvious here, but is there no way within Bobcat to duplicate a route?
I installed Bobcat v220.127.116.11 three days ago on my MacBook (2.2ghz, 4gb RAM). I've converted and moved over the maps from my City Navigator Australia NT 2008 and MapSource installation in my Parallels 'C' drive, and Bobcat is recognising them without a hitch.
As my first experiment, I slowly created a 37 via point route that runs through the firetrails etc near home. Next, I want to use that route as a basis for a couple of variations of that route - IE: I want to create short, medium and long versions.
Do I have to laboriously build the additional routes by dragging in each waypoint to a completely new route, or is there some way to just duplicate the existing route and then rename/modify the dupe?
I'm looking for suggestions here! I had been route planning using TYRE under Windows in Parallels, and have nothing but praise for TYRE. I've now moved from TomTom to Garmin hardware, so I figured I should give Bobcat a try....
Create a new folder, select the route you want, drag a copy over to the new folder, rename it.
Must be time to update my copy of MapConverter as it does not have the option to use/not use compression.
Me too...but I downloaded the "latest" last night! Worked fine for Topo Canada - and previously for Metro Canada - but I cannot yet get it to work for my BlueChart stuff (inside passage of BC).
I've tried leaving the dialogue window open and snagging what's there as .gmapi, but it's only 311 mb. It says it installs successfully in Bobcat, but it ain't there when I go to use it.
There is no - I say again - no option to compress or not. Eh?
Q: Has anyone tried using Bobcat as their moving map software for RV, truck, boat? I don't think it can do that yet, can it? I.e. like Nroute?
(PS Bobcat is getting better w/every build!)
Cheers (and big thanks to Garminmac and the Garmin Corp types who understand the collective power of the interweb!)
Several times today I've experienced the following phenomenon...very annoying!
I'm composing a route contained within a folder. When I attempt to define a new waypoing I am informed that this is now a "smart" folder and I cannot modify its contents. I am given the option of copying everything into a new folder and resuming. I've had to do this several times in the process of composing some new routes. Clearly this behavior is not correct.
Anyone else see this?
Happened to me once, too. I just ignored it and allowed it to copy everything into a new folder --- the "smart folder" just never appeared.