Garmin Montana 650t

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by Meico640, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. Meico640

    Meico640 Banned

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    Anyone got one ?

    Thoughts or advice on getting one ?
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  2. Wallaby_Ted

    Wallaby_Ted You call that a bullbar?

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  3. boneman660

    boneman660 Try Hard

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    G'day, John Hudson from APC Rally is recommending these units for the 2012 APC Rally. I am gearing my bike up for the Qld 4 day Rally coming up in April, and asked him how they were going in the field. He reckons with the RAM mount they are staying on the bikes & working a treat. I gather that they have done a deal with GPS Oz for a "package" at a good price. http://www.gpsoz.com.au/apc_2012/ $799 sounds like a lot, but might save you a lot of heartache if you get lost in the bush. Also lots of material on YouTube that will help you with your decision. Only thing is that you also need to buy "City Navigator" software (comes with Topo maps) if you want to use it in your car or in town. Good luck, Boneman.
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  5. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The Montana will navigate Routes just fine. You need to put in the appropriate viapoints/waypoints so the auto-routing will shape the route the way you intended.

    Cheers,
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  6. Bombardier1965

    Bombardier1965 Ice_Man

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    My wife bought me one for x-mas - what a great gift. I have a boat and always wanted a GPS that could serve me on the road, water and track. I use Tyre to plan my routes, and must say that on a recent trip tyhrough the Snowy Mountains the 650T was faithful all the way and took me exactly where I planned my way points - even if my planning was a bit off :evil. You can read up all about it on the Garmin website, so wont quote the tech details here. But the unit is rugged and waterproof - used it a few times now on the boat as well and no problems whatsoever. Another nice feature id the 5MP camera - kicks by iPhone 4S's butt!! Really good pictures and stores geotags - so you wont forget where you took those pics. It is a bit dear, but if you are like me and invest only in the best so that it will last a looooonnnnggg time, then you cant go wrong.:freaky
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  7. Helipilot

    Helipilot Been here awhile

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    Ready to buy the 650T. Several posts in the ADV forums aren't too happy with the auto routing feature. Can this be turned off or are we stuck with it until Garmin does an update. I read DRTBYK's posting just above about being sure to include enough way-points to keep the auto routing from taking you off the trail. I am not sure I want auto routing active. Thoughts or comments?

    Thanks
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  8. Emmbeedee

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    The problem is not "Auto Routing".

    The issue is that if you create a route outside of the gps and upload it to the gps, you don't want the gps itself to make changes or recalculate the route when you select it to navigate, but at the moment, that's exactly what the Montana does.

    Garmin is working on allowing users to stop that recalculation, and will likely give us the solution before too long. But as DrtByk mentioned, as long as you create "Shaping Points " in your route, the gps won't recalculate it.
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  9. Helipilot

    Helipilot Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the information EmmBeeDee. That clears up the question I had. Just need to take the time to lay out the route fully with the shaping points and wait for a solution from Garmin.

    Appreciate you expertise and DRTBKY's expertise in this area.
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  10. Scout_WY

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    Just about to pull the trigger and looks like the 650T will get the nod. 2 questions.
    Is it or can it be hooked up to 12v? If so is it the round 4 prong female connector?
    Thanks in advance!
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  11. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Yes to 12 volts, through the mount below.

    The Rugged mount is very inexpensive so you can have one on each bike if you choose to. GPSCity.com has it for $32.95, + $2.50 shipping. Keep in mind you also need the AMPS mount and the rest of of the RAM parts if you don't have the bar mount and stalk.


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    Click the image to go to the site.

    You might want to check the humungous New Montana Thread.
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  12. Weekend Warrior

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    I am lookimg at the Montana but not sure about which software is needed.

    I assume they all come loaded with road navigation programs for the US and the 650T adds the 100K Topo to it. Is this correct or do I also have to buy the city navigator program to get road mapping?

    Another question is if the 100K Topo works well for most dualsport and dirt road trips?
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  13. Emmbeedee

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    None of the Montanas come with street maps built in. City Navigator is fairly cheap, in my opinion; you can find it at around $79 in most places, so you'd be best to factor that into your purchase price.

    I have no idea what is on the Topo maps in the T model but I'm sure the Garmin site would have that information.

    Here's the link for the Topo US 100K product. You can see the coverage there.

    This should take you to the map's interactive view.

    http://www8.garmin.com/cgi-bin/mapg...z=0&x=175&y=175&w=480&h=360&d=0&rz=0&k=1&sc=1
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  14. Str8lin

    Str8lin Been here awhile

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    Sold my 276c and bought the 650t. Great deal through GPS City. I think it's a great replacement for the aging 276. Had it for 3 months now, on GS and in truck...seems pretty durable. Using RAM mount until Touratech carries their bombproof mount, whicch I believe deliver starts Mar 12. works well with either Mapsource or Basecamp. Taking maps and processing routes fine.
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  15. Emmbeedee

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    The TouraTech mount still requires the Garmin Rugged Mount, and provides little benefit aside from making your wallet lighter. You might as well get the Rugged Mount now and see how well it works before you spend anything on the TT.

    The Rugged Mount is really inexpensive. It's usually around $35 + shipping, but it provides a very good power source, meaning you don't have to use the fragile mini usb power connection.

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    As near as I can tell the Touratech mount adds key lock-ability and vibration abatement. I'm not sure how the mount prevent the GPS unit from being removed. My guess is that it just prevent the Touratech mount from being removed. The little lock screw on the rugged mount does a fair job of keeping snatch and run types from taking the unit. As for vibration, I'm not sure how susceptible this unit might be. I just finished a 4000 mile run to rural NW Mexico and had zero problems of any kind with the Montana. BTW I really like the unit and recommend it.
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  17. Britome

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    What is a "shaping point?" I'm trying to figure out my new unit.
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  18. Britome

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    Should I get the "trip and way point manager" add on from ?
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Trip and Waypoint Manager
    is an OLD Garmin product that preceded MapSource. It did not support maps and many other features that were later added to MapSource. You don't need it.

    As for your earlier question about "shaping points", your Montana does not support Shaping Points the way the zumo units do so you don't need to worry about them either. When you are creating a route in MapSource or BaseCamp just use Waypoints to make your Route path follow the roads you want it to. You can also use Via Points but they are just like Waypoints - but their only purpose is to make the route follow your intended path. Waypoints and viapoints are both sent to your GPS with the Route data. When you set a Waypoint or Viapoint just make sure that it is on a road surface (zoom in) if it is intended to be.

    Cheers,
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    Thx. You are a stud. What would I do without advrider?!
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