Garmin Montana Collected Wisdom and FAQs

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by Emmbeedee, May 12, 2012.

  1. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Just added this to the Wisdom and FAQ thread:

    GPSCity is giving ADVRider inmates a special deal - check this thread in the Vendors forum for details: RAM Mount & Garmin Discounts

    If you want to discuss the Montana, go to the humungous thread called Laying Down Tracks/New Garmin Montana.

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    Garmin Express, Lifetime Map Updates and the Montana

    Garmin has released a software program which works on the Mac and PC platforms and is supposed to allow you to update everything to do with your gps. If you have Express installed on your computer, each time you plug the gps into the computer, Express will look at the device and see if there are Firmware or Map updates available for it.

    I have been able to update the firmware on my Montana through Express, but Lifetime Map Updates have never worked for me when using Express. I called Garmin Tech Support and was told that Express should not be used for the Montana series as it was not totally compliant with that model.

    I had a pending Lifetime Map Update for my 650 which had failed a number of times so I asked Tech Support to help with that. They emailed me the following information relating to the Map Updater for the Mac and PC platforms:

    "Where can I download the Garmin Map Updater?
    The Garmin Map Updater application is used to update the maps on compatible Garmin GPS devices. High Speed Internet access is required. Not for use with dial-up, satellite or Mobile Broadband Internet access. Includes USB device drivers.

    Minimum Requirements:

    PC:

    Windows XP SP3 or newer
    1 GB RAM
    At least 1024 x 768 display
    13 GB free disk space
    USB port
    USB data cable
    Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile (included)
    Mac:

    Intel-based Mac running OS 10.5.8 or higher
    1 GB RAM
    1024 x 768 display
    13 GB free disk space
    USB port
    USB data cable
    Click the link for the appropriate operating system to download.

    Garmin Map Updater PC:
    http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.exe

    Garmin Map Updater Mac:
    http://download.garmin.com/lmu/GarminMapUpdater.dmg "

    When I tried to run the Mac version, it kept crashing, and the reason it did so was because Express and the Lifetime Map Updater applications were still running on the computer. Once I stopped both of those apps, the Map Updater worked as it should.

    Once the map on your computer is updated, you need to run Garmin MapInstaller to update the map on the gps, and as a final step, remove the previous map, which should be a separate file, as long as you used MapInstaller to add the map.

    In the screen shot below, you can see both maps. I just removed the one which ends in 2013.4 (My maps are installed on the Micro SD card so I can copy them to a backup sd card easily, in case the card should fail. I keep the second/backup sd card taped to the Montana's internal battery, just in case)

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    If you used Mapsource, then all bets are off as it probably overwrote the old map. Mapsource should not be used with the Montana, though some people persist in doing so.

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    If you notice and want to report any omissions or incorrect information in this post, or want to discuss the Montana, go to the humungous thread called Laying Down Tracks/New Garmin Montana. (You can also PM me)

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    Don't Need The Wiring on your Garmin Rugged Mount?

    I had a spare Rugged Mount kicking around, and wanted to use the Montana on my bicycle so I looked into how I could use the mount on the bike.

    The bicycle obviously doesn't have a power source so I took the power connector right off. Nothing to it - just a couple of T6 Torx screws threaded into the connector block and the whole thing comes off as one. So no need to cut the wiring if you don't plan to use it right away.

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    If you want to discuss this idea, or anything to do with the Montana, go to the humungous thread called Laying Down Tracks/New Garmin Montana.

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    This tip describes a couple of useful shortcuts 1: Reset the Trip Computer and 2: Reset Trip Computer and Track

    As many people here already know, the "Odometer" can't be reset without doing a "Factory Reset" on the Montana so it can't easily keep track of a trip's data.

    I wanted to use the "Track Distance" as a kind of "Trip Odometer", and the "real" Trip Odometer to keep track of daily distances. I already had a "Shortcut" in my "Favorites" called "Reset Trip and Track" but using that on a daily basis would wipe out all the data so I made another shortcut to "Reset Trip Computer" easily, and this lets the "Track Distance" be the actual "Trip Distance".

    If you go to Setup/Shortcuts, click the + Create Shortcut at the top of the screen, then click the Name field to name it appropriately. Select "Icon" and choose something you'll recognize. No need to modify the "Profile" field.

    The "Setup" field is where you'll make some changes. Choose "Setup", scroll all the way to the bottom, to the "Reset" area. To make a shortcut that clears the track only, choose "Clear Current Track", then "On" on the next screen.

    If you want a shortcut which resets trip data, then go to "Reset Trip Data" and select "On" for that one.

    You can add both Resets to one shortcut, by selecting both and setting them to "On".

    That's it. You now have a shortcut or two to work with.

    Click the "Back" arrow at the bottom.

    In the Shortcuts list screen, select the shortcut you've just created, then "Add to Menu", and add it to your Main Menu, Drawer, or Favorites. I added my two shortcuts to my "Favorites", and use the "Favorites" as the "Dashboard" which shows up from a short power button push. That way I have immediate access to the two most important buttons I need first thing after starting the gps in the morning.

    Any question? Go to the humungous thread called Laying Down Tracks/New Garmin Montana.
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    One of the biggest advantages to the Montana, over the other Garmin Handheld gps units, is Shortcuts and category searches referred to as "Where To" in Montana parlance. I've mentioned many of the different types of Shortcuts and "Where Tos" you can create but it's sometimes unclear how to tell the difference, and how to create one or the other.

    This screen shot shows how to quickly tell one from the other: a Shortcut has a little arrow in the icon, and a "Where To" has a magnifying glass in the icon.

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    I've mentioned in previous posts how to create a Shortcut, so here's how to create a "Where To":

    1: Go to Setup/Main Menu - Select Main Menu
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    2: In the "Select an Item to Change" screen, if you have an open spot like in the screen below, click the + Add Item Here.
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    In the "Select a Category" screen, select "Where To" to choose a category such as the ones listed below:
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    Once you've chosen your category, that's it. Exit the screen by clicking the left pointing arrow.

    P.S. If you already have eight icons in your Main Menu screen, and hit the + to add another, the Main Menu will then have twelve icon spaces. This is less than desirable since you lose the text associated with the icon, and most of the time the text is fairly important. If you have gone and stepped up to twelve icons and you'd prefer to go back to eight, just click the - to go back to the lesser number.

    If you already have eight icons on your screen and would just prefer to change one for a new "Where To", in the "Select an Item to Change" screen, select an icon then hit the down arrow and that item will go into the bottom of the "Drawer", leaving a space for your other new item.

    Any questions? Go to the humungous thread called Laying Down Tracks/New Garmin Montana.
    and ask there. Please do not reply in this thread...
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