Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    One of the 100 free ones I got from back when I used to play tournament paintball :lol3
  2. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    You have to set the route recalculation to PROMPTED. If you have it set to auto recalc it won't ask you for a yes or no response.
  3. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Can you provide a screen shot, please?

    I have mine set to prompted, but still only get the options listed in my previous post.

    EDIT:

    I have now set Off Route Recalculation and Calculation Method to "Prompted".

    My bad, please accept my apologies.

    Who said what about Map and Compass?

    Did I ever mention how easy and intuitive the Montana is to use?

    :eek1
  4. BruceWA

    BruceWA Been here awhile

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    I'm about to reach information overload. :eek1
  5. 250senuf

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    About to? :huh
    ABOUT TO!!? :eek1
    Highlighted map and compass looking good. :D
  6. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Hey, if it is this tough for us to figure out and keep straight, how much trouble do you suppose it is for all the engineers at Garmin??
  7. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

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    they are supposed to know about this stuff...we just users(or prospective users)
  8. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    :lol3 yeah I dunno but some guy :lol3 put a LOT of energy into this really cool Montana Wiki that shows Setup->Routing with this option:

    [Off Route Recalculation]

    Select how the Montana will recalculate when off route.


    • Prompted
    • Automatic
    • Off
    So to complete the thought, when you set it to Prompted, then while navigating and you go off route a bit, it will prompt you, something like: Off Route, Do you want to recalculate? Yes or No.
  9. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    I really can't understand how Garmin can feel ok about selling these products and not having any decent documentation to explain them. I'd like to work there awhile and incorporate all of these requests, not the least of which is SOME BASIC USER MANUALS that explain how to use BC and the Montana together! :eek1

    I'm hoping if I beg enough some experienced guys out there will look at my examples and see if they make any sense to them? :ear

    Surely some of you experts are just lurking around and ignoring my posts because they are too long, but I want to know if they are "correct"? I.e. if my "working model and rules" sound reasonable?

    p.s. thank you Rocky I was afraid I was either being ignored due to too much information, or was so far off base that everyone was just being polite and not correcting me. (of course both of these are probably still true! :lol3 )
  10. BruceWA

    BruceWA Been here awhile

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    Now I have a headache too! Where's my map...or my 276c. Sheesh.
  11. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    But overload is definitely happening.....we all need to get out and ride!:clap
  12. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    OK, moving right along... We've established that we can have no more than 50 (or 51) Shaping points (a Via Point dropped in BC using the Insert tool) in a route we create in BaseCamp then send to the Montana that we intend to autoroute with. Set the Shaping points just AFTER critical intersections rather than ON the intersection (see below).

    Next, how can we best use this route? One idea I hear a lot is to create the Route in BC using a non-Direct profile (e.g. Motorcycling) so it will auto-route, then adjust things until you like it. When done save it as a Track also. THEN change the Route to be Direct before you send both the Route and the Track to the Montana. Then on the Montana set the routing activity to be anything other than Direct (e.g. Motorcycle).

    Then you have both a Route and Track to follow. The Track will always be correct and the Route is handy for things like Distance (or Time) to Destination. For me on an off-road trip where I don't want it to reroute if I take a slight detour I would also set: Setup->Routing->Off Route Recalculation to Off.

    The best description of this I found is from DRTBYK at post 5746:

    Those of you that have tried this, I assume both the Route and the Track are visible at the same time? Probably in different colors? But since you are navigating on the Route it will be big fat PINK line and most of the time overlap the Track I guess. Is this partial overlapping easy to see what is going on this way or do you have a suggestion?

    Any other ideas or tips?
  13. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    When I plug in my Montana to the USB, what exactly do you think it is doing when it says (momentarily):

    "Saving all Waypoints, Routes and Trip Log information in GPX format: xx% Complete"

    ?

    Is it creating GPX "files" ? Where? on the internal storage or on the PC or ?
  14. bighopper

    bighopper Been here awhile

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    I did this on a trip to the US last May/June & Sept/Oct, with just a route, I didn't have any troubles at all. I didn't do the track thing, but this coming March I'm heading South again (truck/trailer to south of snow) then ride :freaky& I will be doing the Track & Route.

    Seems to be the best option at this time.
  15. snooker

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    Yeah I hear dat. I'm using the winter in my cage to learn this toy though. I would have crashed by now if I had pushed the buttons 10 times per mile like I've been doing in my cage! :rofl

    Still the biggest thing that pisses me off Restore Defaults !!!

    E.g. when I am looking at a map, then press ||| to get the menu below in order to pick Setup Map, but invariably I accidentally press Restore Defaults. I wish there was an "Are You Sure" screen after this. There are several other places this occurs, like in Nuvi when you click on the MPH in lower right then ||| menu and instead of picking Setup Trip Computer I pick Restore Defaults and it completely restores everything.

    Restore Defaults is EVIL for motorcyclists on the move! grrrr. :huh

    [​IMG]
  16. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I was very frustrated with the whole software thing this weekend but sorted it out today.
    I started a new thread so it would be easy for me to find in case I forget.

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=861155

    It might be helpful for anyone looking for a fast way to create routes while avoiding Basecamp as much as possible!
  17. Hayastani

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    Has anyone had any problems connecting the Montana to an Autocom system? I have hard wired the Rugged Mount to the 'bike which posers up the Montana but there is no audio. The Autocom system is an Active Duo which has a small (2.8mm I think) male jack plug which with the use of a converter is fitted to the Montana's 3.5mm female connection. Could the problem be anything other than a fault with the Rugged Mount? If yes, can you point me towards what I should be looking at please? It may be worth noting there is audio output through the Montana's headphone socket. Many thanks.
  18. bighopper

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    Maybe you have a stereo connection when the Montana mount is Mono.
  19. Hayastani

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    Thanks for that bighopper, I shall check that out.
  20. Albie

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    The simplest method for me is if I have to use more then 50 via points I create multiple routes.

    What really sucks is I'm lazy and I usually just use the routes that my buddies create. Of course they have 276's which don't have the ridiculous 50 point max so their routes usually contain more.

    As for displaying both route and track, it doesn't matter if you can't see the track under the route. When you do see the track then you know somethings up since the route and track are no longer following the same line.