Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Topo is cheaper when bundled with a Montana. It's a fairly good map, but I don't tend to use it all that much.

    What blew me away today was driving from Ottawa to Sherbrooke QC, and the only map on my gps which showed the new toll road/bridge (the 30) which is a major timesaver through Montreal was my free OSM map!
  2. dresda

    dresda shut up and RIDE!

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    What blew ME away was that both our units seemed to be possessed by demons today, neither one had a clue how far we were from our destination even when TRACKING BACK!

    :eek1
  3. Mac

    Mac Long timer

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    I wondered why the speed was always red... :evil
  4. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Yeah, they were behaving strangely, weren't they?
  5. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    Must be the solar flare......:huh
  6. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I sure hope it was. Neither gps could do the simplest task: navigate to home. They kept telling us to get off the highway and do a u-turn to go off in the opposite direction. It was bizarre.
  7. gspdbill

    gspdbill noobie allover again

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    Called Garmin, 1st guy I talked to said he'd never heard of this problem before, put me on hold to ask someone else about it and about 2 min later hung up on me.

    Called Garmin back, this time got James, he too said they never heard of this problem, wanted to know if I had any other s/w loaded on the unit (I said just CN & Topo) then wanted to know if I had a SD card installed (yes I do) said the SD card may be hanging up the unit to remove the card and see if it still happens, if it does next step is master reset of the unit.

    I think Garmin is hoping the problem (me) will go away, not a chance.

    At least I got a ticket no. from James to refer to later.

    Don't think I'm going to wind up being real happy w/ Garmin on this......

    Update: 3rd time I powered the unit up after removing the SD card (and after hanging up w/ Garmin) the unit went into White Screen mode..... (it's not a SD card issue)

    3rd call to Garmin I did the Master Reset with them on the line followed by 5 reboots, came up each time (not surprising), will be using the daylights out of it to see if it fails again.

    Do we have a separate thread for Montana "issues"?
  8. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    Has anyone else had this problem? I came back from a trip with the Li-on battery fully charged in the cradle for many hours, turned it off, put it away, and 2 weeks later turn it on to see the battery nearly dead.

    Does anyone think there is a small parasitic draw in these units that behooves one to remove the battery for longer term storage, since Li-on batteries generally don't like being fully discharged?
  9. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider

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    From my post on 11/19/2012:

    Others do not detect this parasitic draw....
  10. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    The way I read your quote they DO see a parasitic draw. If there is a draw when the GPS is in the cradle and none when it's removed then logic dictates the GPS is drawing the juice.

    It's probable never "off" I'm sure it checks it's location from time to time when powered down to help with satellite acquisition when you fire it up.
  11. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    If the gps is in the mount, I'm sure it still draws power, but the mount alone uses none, AFAIK.
  12. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    Sorry, I did not make it clear that I removed it from the mount and put it away in my desk drawer for that two weeks.
  13. Emmbeedee

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    Did you have the barometer set to record while the gps is off? That would use some power.
  14. Boughton

    Boughton Adventurer

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    I have a few questions that I have yet to find the answers to within this forum, or maybe I have just overlooked them.

    1. I just bought a Montana 600 and now need to decide what maps to purchase?

    2. I plan to use the GPS to navigate on streets and dirt roads across Idaho mainly. I also plan to ride the GDR.

    3. I would like to trace a route on my MAC computer using the map software (basecamp?) then load it into the Montana and follow the route on the GPS.

    4. I know I need to get the street navigator, but the question is what topographic map to get 100k or 24k? I was thinking 100k for a generalized map use. Can I trace a route with the 100k maps, I've read yes and no to this question.

    5. ALL COMMENTS WELCOME!!!

    Thanks
  15. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    For street and dirt road City Navigator or you could get free OSM maps.

    The 100K topo maps are not routable, the 24K are.
  16. Boughton

    Boughton Adventurer

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    Is road city navigator routable?
  17. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    The product is known (for our neck of the woods) as City Navigator North America. And yes, it is routable.

    The 100K topo map from Garmin is not routable.

    I don't have any of the Garmin 24K map products, but believe that they are routable (if not, someone will doubtless correct me.)
  18. FireDog45

    FireDog45 Mid-life crisis sufferer

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    City Navigator North America (CNNA) is routable and also contains a lot of other info such as fuel, shopping, dining, lodging... I recommend CNNA over OSM (open source maps) because of the this. OSM will get you in the general vicinity but not to a specific address. It also doesn't have seem to contain as extensive a list of the other goodies I mentioned. For example: I live on a county road and OSM will get me to the approx 3 mile section I live on but not my specific address. It also didn't know there was 3 fuel stations 5 miles from my house. It showed the closest fuel was more than 10 miles away.

    These may be minor to some but to me the $80 that Garmin charges was worth it.

    I do have the OSM topo maps installed but haven't a chance to give them a workout yet but on first glance they look like they'll do fine for me. Though these are not routable like the 24K Garmin maps are.
  19. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Great purchase! Tons of great Montana GPS info also available here.

    Use Garmin CNNA (DVD Only) if you require updated routable mapping, or Garmin 24k Topo if you want topo info and routing info from 2008.

    I highly recommend NW Topos from Switchbacks. Not routable, but very detailed.

    Many more great free maps here.

    or get free routable OSM Maps here.

    Some information about Routes in BaseCamp.

    24k maps far more accurate than any 100k maps, and the link above to NW Topos is one of the finest 24k maps you will find for your area!
  20. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider

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    There is a new series of 100K topo maps from Garmin that IS routeable. Here are hi-lites from the Southwest map.

    TOPO U.S. 100K - Southwest

    $ 59.99 USD

    Provides detailed digital topographic maps, comparable to 1:100,000 scale USGS maps.
    Contains roads, trails and highways in metropolitan and rural areas so getting to your destination is easy by creating point-to-point routes on compatible devices.

    Version: 5.00
    Released: January 2013
    Part Number: 010-D1312-00

    Use with One Device Only

    This product may be unlocked and used on 1 compatible device. If you want to use this same map on subsequent units, you must purchase a new map for each device.

    Data downloaded to a microSD/SD card is associated with the device you select during the download process. Please purchase additional quantities for additional devices.

    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=255&pID=127640



    Here is the entire US version.

    TOPO U.S. 100K
    Version: 5.00
    Released: January 2013

    DVD ( $ 99.99 USD )
    microSD™/SD™ card ( $ 99.99 USD )
    Download ( $ 99.99 USD )

    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=255&pID=127633






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    This series is more like the CNNA by allowing routing and locking to devices than the older 24K and even older 100K.

    So to be clear, we should call maps in the new 100K series 2013 100K map; i.e. 2013 100K Southwest or some such.
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