Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. TowPro

    TowPro Single Track Geezer

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    I had never seen the Montana up there. When I called they transferred me to "optics" and someone from the gun counter answered. I seems all the hand held GPS's are in optics and everything else is over near the ATV/auto section :huh. Hopefully mine will be there by Sunday. I think you have 30 days to return it if you don't like it.
  2. spidennis

    spidennis SandStorm Adventures

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    I'm a 478 user and thinking about getting another unit for a few different reasons.
    (when the 478 finally dies, extended remote kayak trips, hiking, etc)

    What really got me about the montana is the battery options!

    Is the Montana the next 478?
  3. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Minus the XM features, the Montana far surpasses the GPSMAP 478. You might follow my sig link to the GPS article I wrote on the Montana for a brief overview.

    Cheers,
  4. spidennis

    spidennis SandStorm Adventures

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    Nice articles you got there. I'll be lost in them for awhile!

    Too bad about XM though, ...... is Next Rad dead, or about to be? who/what uses it?

    Now the only thing the montana needs is a iPhone glued onto the back!
    wow, how much would that be worth? or cost?!!
  5. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    As far as I know NexRad is relegated to the dedicated Marine and Aviation units these days. In current "motorcycle friendly" products, XM Weather is available on the zumo 665 and zumo 550 with the appropriate GXMxx XM radio and XM Weather subscription.

    Cheers,
  6. Glierly

    Glierly Been here awhile

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    I have only had the Montana a couple of days but find the screen very readable and clear.

    This photo (phone cam image - sorry) shows both units with backlight set at approx 50%

    Gary



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  7. nibby

    nibby Been here awhile

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    Damn. I was hoping the new Montana would allow me to have just the one system and allow me to replace both my
    zumo 660 and gpsmap 62st.

    I've just bought a Sena SMH10 bluetooth headset to allow me to listen to directions/music/phone when on the road bike.

    I believe the Montana does not come with bluetooth so looks like I will have to stick with the two devices for the moment.

    There is an option with the Sena (SR10) that works as a gateway but still dont think I would then have the same as the
    Zumo in the way I can control phone/music through it.

    I maybe wrong though???
  8. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    The Montana rugged mount has a line out for audio directions, but if you 'need' music, keep your Zumo. IMHO, the Montana is perfect without media players and Bluetooth so I wouldn't be campaigning to have those 'features' added.
  9. TowPro

    TowPro Single Track Geezer

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    The SMH10 accepts 2 separate bluetooth inputs:
    HSP/HFP (Headset Profile/Hands Free Profile) and A2DP (Advance Audio Distribution Profile). HSP/HFP is standard in all phones with Bluetooth feature. Almost all Bluetooth MP3 players, Smartphone, audio dongles support A2DP to send stereo audio to Bluetooth headset like SMH10.

    I was thinking just use the MP3 player on your phone, then pair the phone with SHM10, then plug the garmin into the MP3 jack on side of helmet, so I did research on this, it seems that if you plug something into the MP3 jack of the SMH10 it overrides the locks out the A2DP profile (stereo sound from MP3 player) from working (but I have not tried it, maybe tonight if I have time).

    • MP3 jack and Bluetooth Stereo music
      • Users cannot listen to music through Bluetooth either by using Bluetooth-enabled MP3 player or by Smart phone if they connect an audio device to MP3 jack of the SMH10.
    • Non-Bluetooth audio devices
      • A Bluetooth audio dongles can be used to turn non-Bluetooth audio devices(GPS navigation, MP3 player) into a Bluetooth audio device.
    If you could find a bluetooth audio dongle that accepted two stereo 3.5mm inputs, then transmitted A2DP to the SHM10, you could wire the Garmin and MP3 player to this device, then pair the this device to the SMH10 for A2DP. Then pair your phone to the SHM10 (with HSP/HFP for phone calls).
    (the SR10 does just this, but it connects to the SMH10 with just HSP/HFP so the sound will be mono, with extra hiss added (again, Sena is working on that hiss that ins introduced with the SR10).

    The SR10 is brand new and can have it's software updated by users with the USB cable, I can only hope new software comes out that allows stereo usage and allows the SR10 to use A2DP as well as HSP/HFP, but I don't know if the SR10 had 3.5mm stereo input jacks or not.

    Here is a separate thread on the SMH10/SR10.
    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562357

    Back to the regularly scheduled Garmin Montana content :D.
  10. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    Thanks Glierly.
  11. leftystrat62

    leftystrat62 Adventurer

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    Holy Crap,that is fantastic information,now I'm sold on buying the sd card so I can use it in both my garmins. Man, am I glad I read this.:clap
  12. nibby

    nibby Been here awhile

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    Towpro,

    thanks for the reply and info.

    Unfortunately it is going to be a compromise. I bought the Senna because I dont have to plug in cables and it works excellent for the few times I need music/phone & directions. Personally I find that if I have to plug things in etc. that I tend not to use them (lazy yes!) with the Sena I can just grab my helmet and not worry about plugging things :huh

    It's a pity Garmin did not include bluetooth with the Montana as it would have made it the ideal solution for me.

    It will still do everything I need but is more of a pain to achieve the ultimate for me.

    Looks like a great unit though and I will still probably decide to buy as I have most of the other's so why not :ear:eek1:lol3
  13. Disco Dean

    Disco Dean Long timer

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    Well loving the unit and it is doing everything I want but...

    I think I have the battery woes.... Unit is 1 week old (with me) and today - when riding an onramp I punched through the gears and took it to redline - blank screen - shut off.

    However the screen still had power - it was bright but blank.

    Had to take it out of the cradle to power it back up - no problem.

    Tried it again - up through the gears... to redline...

    Blank.

    I have it mounted to one of the bar clamp bolts on a short Ram mount - maybe when it revs up it is vibrating a bit.

    For the last 4-5 days of riding - when not revving the bike - all is good and no problems at all.

    I am thinking this is the battery issue I will wrap some tape around it and see if that fixes it. aka Drtbyk

    Dean
  14. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Even just putting a foam earplug over the battery then closing the cover on it is enough to stop the battery from moving.
  15. Disco Dean

    Disco Dean Long timer

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    Now thats a good idea. Thanks,

    I have some small different strips of foam but I like how the earplug foam works...

    Thanks,

    Dean
  16. NMTrailboss

    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    You've mentioned doing an article on BaseCamp a few times...any idea when you might have that out?

    I loved your write up on the Montana! Probably will be my next GPS and replacement for the trusty 60CSx. I just downloaded BaseCamp last week and am now trying to find out the differences, pros & cons between it and the original Mapsource.
  17. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Thanks for the kind words.

    End of December is the target for the BaseCamp article. It will focus on the two versions and will not be a comparison to MapSource other than the main differences.

    My advice is to read through the Help file. Then start using it - it's not MapSource so don't assume you know how things will work. Otherwise you might get a bit frustrated.

    Cheers,
  18. NMTrailboss

    NMTrailboss Team Dead End

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    Very good...off to the Help file I go! Thanks for the info. and I look forward to the BaseCamp article! :thumb
  19. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    That's an understatement. :deal
  20. Disco Dean

    Disco Dean Long timer

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    Okay one more question... this one is a bit of symantics...

    When I am in a profile:
    Montana supplied unit profiles...When I change that profile by adding or changing functions...

    1. Is it automatically saved to that profile? Does it change the unit specified profile or are those locked?

    2. When I create a profile and then maybe down the road change something in that profile - does it change that profile I made or do I have to "create a new profile" to capture those changes?

    Issue - is - I am still figuring out my Montana profiles and have made a few - but when I am in them and tweak them - I would rather keep the initial profile I have made so that if my tweaks do not work out - I still have my starting point... If I like them then I save a new profile and delete the old one...

    I am playing with it a lot and it seems that when I play around and set things up - in a profile it changes it...

    Thanks in advance.

    Dean