Garmin Montana

I think you're confusing 'battery save' with backlight timeout.

BS makes the screen go grey, ie it displays nothing.

BT just turns off the backlight.

You probably have both set to On.


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hmm, what's this about trying to make new tracks from routes?

You can't on the Montana. Want to discuss how to do it on a phone? Do it somewhere else. It's not on topic here.


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You can convert a route to a track in Basecamp. I think when you open the window for the route there is a button. I've done this just in case I have issues with a route.

thanks @biker128pedal yep, i've done that. it seems to be a problem/issue, but i haven't used the 60csx, oregon, or montana enough to really understand what the big deal is about routes vs tracks on standalones, yet. hmm, really not sure about that part.

it doesn't make a difference to my wonderful smartphone if i'm using a route or track, but i did notice some problems with the montana i had in hand last week. the oregon seems to like tracks (as exported by basecamp) more than routes. the recorded track files and route files created on my wonderful smartphone that i transfered seemed to work fine on the 60csx, oregon, and montana, but i'm still new to this whole "gotta do it a very specific way for it to work" thing, with the montana. i'm hoping the previous poster can clear it up for me. he's always got good info.

i highlighted the wonderful smartphone part because someone whispered in my ear that the main montana cheerleader in this thread loves it when i do that. i'll make sure to do so in the future.

I really wish the Garmin standalones could accept routes and tracks created by my wonderful smartphone over Wi-Fi/Bluetooth or even usb-otg, so I could test track/route/kmz and map apability between devices easier.... instead of having to pull batteries and swap sdcards, but it's a work around for the ancient hardware that works for now.

I meant to tag @wbbnm earlier about the track vs route thing, oops, corrected that now

I could not care less what you say about your toy, but keep it relevant to the topic.


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I created a new topic just for you, since I know the object of your exercise is to show how much better a phone is.


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ohgood-

(I wrote and deleted a long post to you.)

Please respect our conversation here, even though you have seen the light.

Thanks......shu

hi there!

yup, I always am respectful.

if you'll notice my post asked about a process along with its successes and failures , that's all I'm really interested in. the squabbling stuff just goes to ignore.

seeing the light...I'm just testing what the capabilities and shortcomings are with what are considered the "best"units to be had for motorcycling. as there are new units released im curious if they are catching up and adding functionality, so I buy n try, then resell again.

its always respectful from my end. well, I do make faces at the hall monitors on the way to gym, but otherwise respectful ;-)

Routes to tracks question.

Ok, so you have a route on your device. You go ride that route. You now have a track of that route. It will be under "current track." What am I missing here?

yup, you're right on. I think the earlier comments were about when routes won't work as intended, and a track would be better to follow.

Right. There are times when a route may be recalculated or the device just won't route you down a road (think: pass roads with regular, scheduled, seasonal closures.) You can put enough points into your route on BaseCamp to force it to route that way, but when transferred to the GPS it will try to re route you. At that point, it's nice to have an unchanging track to guide you past the problem point, to where you can get back on your route.

..........shu

Not sure what you think you are missing.

Creating a track by riding is a great way to make one. But many of us prefer to navigate by following a track. Sometimes we don't have an existing track, so we have to create one.
A common way is to use either Mapsource or Basecamp and create a route using autorouting and then convert that route to a track and load the track onto the Montana.

But I suspect from your previous posts that you already knew this and you are referring to something else.

Maybe I use my GPS differently than others. I DO use Basecamp to create tracks of places that I want to go ride. I create way-points along the way for major intersections and stopovers along the route. Now when riding the track, if I come to an impassable section and want to find another way to my next way-point, I call just call up the way-point and select GO to have the Montana route me there. Once I am back on track (pun intended) I can cancel navigation and continue on my track. I guess I thought that is how everyone did it.

depends... if it's just a street ride I'll probably tell Google to find the way, since they're always up to date with closures/stuff. if it's not a street ride, I'll look around the area for curvy roads, drop a waypoint, and navigate to that point (like you mentioned) with hopes of riding fun roads to get there. usually works very well.

tracks... absolutely yes, always record a track, that way if you find good stuff to ride again, it's easy to link the route/tracks together. it's a really good idea to save the track after a fun road, and name it as such, before the memory of which road was awesome, fades. also it prevents having spider tracks all over the map of poor triangulation at each time you stop to pea. clean, well named tracks are freaking sweet. spider tracks all over mean spending time on the phone/tablet/programs to clean up the mess. less mess= no betterer.

Building a route on this unit is a royal pain compared to the old x76/x96's which supported on-the-fly routing with plenty of waypoints/vias, finds while panning, custom avoids, etc. This unit only gives you one via in an on-the-fly route - what's the point?

I used routes very frequently on the x76/x96's and plenty of them were created on the unit and even more on-the-fly. I almost never use routes in this unit... it's just too painful...

hmm, maybe it's time to put one of those older 76/96 units you mentioned several times as working better, on my list to test ride. so far it looks lie the bicycle computers are about on par.

I would happily run one of those older units over this POS. My last one finally died about two months after they announced they no longer support them.

that is usually what happens to the good stuff

Can some explain why this happens
I sat up last night and created a route on the Montana itself
All looked great then it reconfigures the first part
Errrr


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