Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. SteveAZ

    SteveAZ Long timer

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    If you don't tighten the security screw the unit is very secure in the mount and it pops in and out in a heartbeat so no reason to leave it on the bars - that's my approach. They've got the little security-torx screw that when you tighten it down the unit will not come out of the mount but.... removing the mount from the handlebars is a trivial task so I don't leave the unit on the bars.....
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  2. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I use the Rugged Mount on its own, only locking it if I feel paranoid. I rarely ride in towns unless I'm traveling, in which case I do lock it in.

    I use a nylock nut on the RAM arm, instead of the big knob provided. That way people can't steal the mount and the gps together.
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  3. abruzzi

    abruzzi Long timer

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    Thanks. its hard to tell whether the mount would hold the device securely without the screw. My fear is hitting a pothole at 70mph and shattering $400 worth of electronics on the highway behind me.
  4. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    It's not going to come out unless you don't put it in properly. And don't forget to use a lanyard, just in case.
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  5. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    Rugged Mount only for me for 100,000 kms with no issues.
  6. shu

    shu ...

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    Likewise, many, many rough miles and the Montana has never come loose from the Rugged Mount. ( I've never used the security screw and, like Emmbeedee always tether the unit, just in case.)

    ............shu
  7. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    One time I didn't engage the bottom hooks correctly. The Montana did shake loose. I always use a short tether so no harm done.

    At lunch I usually bring it inside to plan the afternoon or review the morning. If I don't need to do that and I have luggage, I toss it in the luggage where I usually put the gloves and earplugs.
  8. baiku

    baiku Manaical Engineer

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    Follow up to my post:

    I made a shortcut on the main screen that goes to the Satellite page. Then I can select "Use with GPS off". That kills the trip odometer updates.
  9. abruzzi

    abruzzi Long timer

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    One last question on the Montanas: is there any compelling reason to spend for a 610 vs a 600? I doubt i would care about the GLONASS support. The different storage capacities are easily overcome by a larger SD card. Things like preloaded geocaches are uninteresting to me. The only things I can think of would be if the new version performed better (faster CPU), added capabilities that the first generation units didn't have, or improved the UI (I've never used one so i dont know how good or bad the UI is in practice.)

    Other than possibly getting slightly better accuracy with GLONASS, it doesnt seem like the second generation units did any of that.
  10. BergDonk

    BergDonk Old Enough to Know Better

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    The newer ones seem to have a bit more to the software based on my very very limited exposure to a 680, things like alpha sorting of tracks. I'm an extremely satisified Basecamp track planner, recorder and follower on a 600 for over 100,000 kms now. I only very occasionally use a route, and never a preplanned one, only to take me to an unplanned destination like an address or waypoint. The Oz/NZ Topo is excellent too, as is Basecamp for my needs, which I think is a large part of my satisfaction equation.
  11. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    I’d get the 610. There are quite a few software improvements and you’re more likely to get continued support from Garmin. Cabella’s has them for $349 new which is the same as Garmin’s refurb price. The 680s are $20 more but I’m not sure of the differences. Either way you still need to get an AMPS mount, RAM mounts for bike and unit and a short arm, and the CNNA map download (highly recommend)...AND a lanyard.

    It’s a chunk of change but I really feel it’s been worth it.
  12. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I can't think of anyone who owns a 600 or 650 who has switched or plans to switch to the 610 or 680.

    It's just not different enough. If there's a substantial cost difference, go for the 600 or 650.


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  13. Jeff B

    Jeff B Socially Awkward

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    I use the camera on my 680 enough to justify. Anytime it's raining or my hands are muddy, I keep my Iphone in a waterproof holder safe in my jacket pocket and use the 680.

    For this I'm glad I sprung for the 680. I also avoided the 680T model on advice HERE that the built in maps were diluted compared to the stand alone versions. My stand alone Garmin Topo's are routeable. I'm not sure if the built in Topo's on the 680T are route-able.
  14. ohgood

    ohgood Just givver tha berries !!!

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    7 of the 14 satellites I'm seeing (from my basement) are glonass.
  15. guavadude

    guavadude Dirt Nap Enthusiast

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    If you sign up at activejunky.com you’ll get a 12% rebate on Cabella’s purchases. $369 for a 680t plus free shipping. I wouldn’t upgrade if you have an older model but if you’re waiting to buy one, pounce on this before it’s gone.
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  16. abruzzi

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    Thanks for the info. I get that GLONASS is a benefit, but where I live and ride, I've never had trouble getting more than enough GPS satellites to get an accurate fix. I usually have 11 satellites, all with a solid signal. The camera isn't of interest, so I've eliminated the 650 or 680 (for photos I have an all-weather Nikon mirrorless thats submersible to 50 ft, so should have no issue with a heavy downpour.) Call me shallow, but I really don't want faux camouflage on my GPS so I eliminated the 600t and 610t. GPSCity has refurbed 600's for $300 and non-refurbed 610 for $350. The most persuasive argument for the 610 for me is if it runs a different OS with different features (even if only slightly) it may be supported for a longer period of time with update.

    Unfortunately, I was ready to pull the trigger yesterday but then heard about the motorcycle-superstore closeout sale. I ended up spending my GPS money on a new helmet a half price, so I'm going to have to wait until January before I jump. Thanks for the info, I'll digest it all.
  17. SKINNY

    SKINNY Been here awhile

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    I'm wondering if the newer 610/650/680 have a better display than the original 600 series.
    I'm on my 2nd Montana 600 screen failure...calibration routine doesn't help.
    I like the Montana, but if the touch screens are this short lived, I'll probably go with the 276cx for a replacement
  18. abruzzi

    abruzzi Long timer

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    The only issue I have with the 276cx (aside from the price, which will come down eventually) is they put the buttons on the wrong side. Aside from the screen size, I quite like my Colorado, so I've never had a strong need for touchscreen.
  19. CSpringsRider

    CSpringsRider Been here awhile

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    Same here. I can turn on the Montana in my office and get a boatload of satellites. Clearly, I don't need the GPS in my house but the ability to navigate in "urban canyons" is a very nice feature when riding through a city. For the $50 difference, it is probably worth getting the newer model.
  20. LeeU

    LeeU Been here awhile

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    Having a problem with my 600. Using navigation, after about an hour or so. Screen goes to white--
    message states: "Saving all Waypoints, Routes and Trip Log information in GPX format. 100% complete"
    It locks on this screen. Turning the GPS off and on sometimes clears the screen back to normal- but lately about a minute later the same message appears.

    HELP! Did a hard reset and waiting to see if it improves. Anyone had this same problem?

    LeeU
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