Garmin Nuvi car gps as a budget >$250 adv setup

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by B1, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. AJC

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    Here's what Garmin support had to say

    "HI Andrew,
    My aplogies. On closer inspection it was confirmed to me that routes cannot be transferred to a nuvi 2455 via Basecamp (only Dezl and zumo automotive units support this feature). See below.

    Question: Can I transfer routes created on my device with Trip Planner to MapSource or BaseCamp?
    Answer: Trip Planner is a feature on several automotive devices used for creating custom routes. These routes created using Trip Planner cannot be transferred to mapping programs like MapSource or BaseCamp. However, routes created using Mapsource or BaseCamp can be transferred to certain devices. To view compatible devices that can receive routes from MapSource or BaseCamp, see the article - How do I access routes transferred from the computer on a nuvi, LIVE, dezl, or zumo device?

    https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/case.faces?caseId={65814150-50b3-11dc-4ec8-000000000000}
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    The best we could suggest would be to create the route with trip planner in the unit itself."

    Looks like i bought the wrong Nuvi
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  2. B1

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    sorry if i led you astray on that AJC, i've revised my first post now accordingly. that seems ridiculous that garmin give the 2455 the capacity to store 100 routes but expect you to plan them all on the gps unit itself??? garmin products are certainly not known for being user friendly, i hope they'll allow you swap it for a model that does accept routes.

    one thing that must might be worth trying first, export your file in the gpx format, then if you can find a gpx folder on your gps unit or the sd card then copy it to there. you might just find the gps will then pick it up. slim chance though....
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  3. AJC

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    already tried that one B1, no go i'm afraid. Looks to me like another classic case of marketing doing their own thing and not working with other departments. I'll have to see if I can sell it on eBay and then hopefully get one that is compatible.


    looks like you guys had some fun up round our neck of the woods on the weekend.
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    sure did, i'll be posting a video in a few minutes. some awesome riding up around imbil...

    re: the garmin, it might be worth pushing their distributors about it. i really like the rekluse clutch but found some of their marketing misleading. emails and phone calls did no good, so i did a blog reviewing the clutch and my experiences with it, as well as posting about it on various relevant threads. once i sent them all the links they were incredibly fast at resolving the issue. i wasn't nasty, tried to be objective, but sometimes they'll only respond when they think they'll lose future sales.
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  5. AJC

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    Once again thanks for all the help and advice B1. I've finally got everything working now. I bought a Nuvi 1450 (going to eBay the 2455) and followed your instructions and all working great now, and contrary to Garmin Supports advice the 1450 IS compatible with Basecamp. Just one question, i've been trying to see how many vias/waypoints i can get away with on a route so now have a number of routes that failed to import sitting in the MY DATA/IMPORT ROUTES list. Any idea how to clear them out?
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    tools / my data / delete selected routes

    you can also clear your trip log in this section.
    and sometimes a custom route leaves unwanted points as "favourites" in the garmin, in this section you can use "delete favourites" to clean those up as well.
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  7. AJC

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    but after doing all that I then go into TOOLS/MY DATA//IMPORT ROUTES and in the list that starts with Select All the routes are all still there, even the ones it couldn't import due to too many via points, its not clearing this list and if the unit is limited to 10 routes wont this cause problems?
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  8. B1

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    nope. just one of those garmin quirks that they stay there. i think they eventually disappear when you've imported ten new routes that wipe out the old ones.

    the only way to truly clean it up is reset the gps totally. start it up holding a finger on the bottom right hand part of the screen. it will ask if you want to reset the system. then you just need to re-enter any favourites you have, your home location etc.
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  9. Davidc83

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    You cannot upload routes to the Garmin 1300 series (1350 or 1390s) GPS. Even with basecamp, you cannot upload the routes. I have the 1390 lt and there is no place in it for it to except customized routes. Basecamp will recognize it as a device, but everything is grayed out when you try to upload to the device.
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    this really interesting to me because i have been contemplating a gps for ages.
    I am interested in a montana and being able to get data of a gps to see where i have been on google earth.
    To start to learn i have bought an old nuvi 2350.I made sure i got a garmin that would accept routes.Like the 2455 the 2350 accepts 100 routes.UNLIKE the 2455 it does not have route planner.Is this the crucial difference?

    https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/cat...362&compareProduct=70242&compareProduct=67374
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    this unfortunately does make sense,in that the 1390t is not specced as "having" routes ,the 1450 does,as does worringly for me the 2455.The only difference that i can see on the garmin website is the 2455 has a trip planner and a trip log and my 2350 does not,but still "has" 100 routes
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  12. adventurerideraus

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    I think that you will be dissapointed with your 2350. I have that model and I couldn't import routes from Basecamp and Garmin support confirmed it.

    The 2300 series do support multiple stop routing but will not display routes sent from Mapsource or Basecamp. Only way is to use the Trip Planner on the actual device and that's not simple.

    I have given up with my Nuvi 2350 and I'm now contemplating what to do.

    Could buy an old Nuvi 1450 as people say they can accept routes from Basecamp or go the iPhone way as I already own this phone. Some of the guys I ride with use their iPhones and then load an app and buy the topo maps.

    I'm still learning so I will keep reading and see what people think.

    I would love if anybody could tell me the pros and cons of each option. Ie; why do you feel the GPS is better than the iPhone solution.

    Cheers
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  13. AJC

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    I bought the 2455 and had the same issues trying to import routes. Garmin support were trying to help me through it but then suddenly backtracked and told me that Nuvis are not compatible with Mapsource/Basecamp, which apparently was news to him too. I sold it on eBay and bought a 1450 as I know others have been able to import routes to this particular model. My riding buddy uses an app on his phone and if I was doing it all again I think I would go the mobile phone route. With the nuvi you can only display your route but its very useful sometimes to have all the surrounding tracks displayed as well. He can do this on his phone app but i haven't been able to do it on the nuvi. If anyone has found a way to do this i would be very grateful to be corrected.
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  14. Young-Gun

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    Hey mate, any chance you could find out a bit more info on the phone app?

    If anyone is interested I have a 1450 and a 1490 as well as another newer model, might be interested in parting ways with a couple
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    Interesting what you said about your Nuvi 1450 not displaying anything other than your route. So if I understand you right all you can see on your Nuvi is the route that you have created. If there was a track paralell to your route you can't see it? Did I understand that right?

    Do you have TOPO maps?
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    yes the 23550 cant accept routes.I t does track logs which you can export back to basecamp/google earth and then google maps.That was one thing i wanted.I am now considering a zumo or a montana.I dont want a phone the size of a gps in my pocket and if i end up with a montana or zumo they are waterproof and i would think(but dont know) that they are a bit more robust.One thing i do know is that the 2350 wont even last long as my car gps,i want a 5 or even 7 in screen.
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  18. B1

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    re: phone apps, there are whole threads on that and probably worth exploring those. you won't want to rely on internet access, you'll need an app where you can upload the topo maps etc to your phone. i knew a guy who bought a gps app for $5 for his iphone and said it works brilliantly. just make sure your screen is bright enough to read in direct sun, that's what i like about the nuvis...

    yep, you can't get the nuvis to show tracks (e.g. tracks you have drawn in mapsource), only routes and your own track log. at least with topo maps or shonky maps they usually have a lot of the tracks that criss cross state forests etc.

    never had issues with three 1450 and 1490 nuvis, and they've been on mx tracks, dirt rides, adv rides, wet weather etc. but be worth googling around to see if anyone has vibrated them to bits before...$150 at dick smiths at the moment in australia.
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    i dont mean they wont last in them selves i mean i dont like the little 4.3 in screen!
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  20. AJC

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    once you've got the route loaded into the Nuvi does anyone know if its possible to get rid of the big flags (or replace them with something smaller) and also the 'approaching' message that appears before every way point?
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