Garmin topo Australia ??

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Oz and Kiwi Land' started by atgreg, Apr 4, 2009.

  1. atgreg

    atgreg Africatwinarama Super Moderator

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    Anyone tried this ?? if so how does it compare to Shonky, T4A& Oztoppo
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    rosscoact need constant supervision

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    you beat me to it Greg.

    It does have auto-routing which none of the others have.

    I'm particularly interested in
    • the quality of the maps i.e. does it have the tracks and are they where they think they are;
    • is there a road heirachy; and
    • can it replace CN and either Oztopo or Shonky (T4A doesbn't have topo) ?
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  3. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    You've got my attention.

    Is there a source of information on this? It's the first I've heard of it.

    It's strange, I'm sitting here building a new map file for my GPS after updating the firmware a few minutes ago, and I wander in here and wait! There's more!!:lol3. Autorouting offroad mapping gives me a woody. Although the GPSMAP60's have a mind of their own when it comes to autorouting.:huh
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  5. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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    Both OZtopo and TOPO Australia have noticably more 4WD tracks than Tracks4Australia and Shonkymaps.

    OZtopo uses roads and tracks data from Map Data Sciences/PSMA
    TOPO Australia uses NavTeq data
    T4A and Shonky use Geoscience Australia data

    Still trying to get a handle on the OZtopo and TOPO Australia differences
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  6. rosscoact

    rosscoact need constant supervision

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    Burnie,

    How accurately auto-routing would work is a key consideration. I'm thinking that on the 60cx on tar roads it gets confused and sometimes wants you to go back to where you started from.

    that would become tiresome very soon.

    I might be tempted to be a guinea pig though
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  7. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    Rossco, the 60CSx has a mind of its own for routing. When you hit navigate, it does an auto-recaclc every time. It means that often it will take you places you just didn't want to go, so judicious use of waypoints and via points is required to get it to go the way you want it to. It's a pain. But tracks are sweet!
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  8. BurnieM

    BurnieM Nipple boy

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    OZtopo V3 (in development) will do auto-routing mainly to compete with TOPO Australia.

    Still believe you should be doing a lot of manual planning and road condition checking before going off in the Outback tho
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  9. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    +1. Just 'cos the map says it's there doesn't mean a lot when you're out in the boonies.
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  10. desert dog

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    so true !!!:ear

    but some spend more time plannin da RESCUE :flush

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    she sat on the side of the track for three and a half weeks, then another week in the trailer on the side of the same track 80 km north, before I got her home !!
    good GPS/map skills are important out here !! :deal

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  11. rosscoact

    rosscoact need constant supervision

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    Obviously not mutually exclusive.

    Hema outback maps lives beside my bed, wifey now just grunts now when I wake up in the middle of the night and pull it out.








    come on, get your mind out of the gutter:lol3
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  12. Micl

    Micl Been here awhile

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    Hi guys

    I just bought Garmin Topo Aus last week. I needed a GPS and decided the 60 CX would do nicely but needed maps. I wanted both street level and topo. Looking at reviews and talking to GPS OZ I decided to give the Garmin Topo a go. I can't compare to shonky etc as I havn't loaded them but it seems really good. Around Canberra and on my trip on Easter Oallen/ nerriga / sussex/kangaroo valley home it worked great. The around town street maps seems as good as my car navman and it calculates routes and recalcs quicker. Off road it seems to route on all tracks it knows about ie you can set a point out on a 4wd track and it seems to take you there. Havn't tried much trip planning on PC and transfering yet. Didn't play much with this as the main area I tried was around kangaroo valley and all the tracks i wanted to explore turned out to be private property. Overall I am really happy. Ended up costing $750 ish for Garmin, mounts for both bikes, and the maps which is cheaper than a zumo, does all the street stuff and has the topos.

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  13. Micl

    Micl Been here awhile

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    After reading some other posts I decided to check the routing again. The Garmin topo does not route tracks only roads. The issue I guess is how many of the places you want to go are covered by roads. I am happy with the overall routing and I suspect it will get me to and from where I want to be and I can view the tracks and find my way around them.

    Looking around Canberra particularly in the Brindies there are heaps of "roads" shown as well as a network of "tracks". For example up to Mt Coree is a road as is places like Flea Creek and heaps of the interconnecting trails. These are all routable. THere are also heaps of other tracks shown that arn't however routable. Hopefully over the next few weeks I can go explore them...

    ANy Canberra people that want to look and play feel free to let me know others will have to wait til Newnes :lol3 or maybe Delegate.:ricky

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    GodSilla I did that.

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    Hi Micl, did you get the garmin topo on DVd or preloaded on a card? Just wondering.......
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    Micl Been here awhile

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    Had the option of either so went with DVD so I can look at it on the PC. The whole of Aus does fit on a 2M card so I copied to that and stuck it in the GPS. I have been playing with it a bit on the PC and on the GPS but havn't really tried loading routes between them etc yet... Only had it a week and was away 4 days of that :evil

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  16. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    There's a bit of a learning curve, but it's worth the effort. You can download shonkymaps and tracks4australia as well for free, and make them part of your mapset. the limiting factor is the number of map tiles you can have in a mapset, currently it's 2025, but I tried that number last week and got a corrupted mapset, so I went down to approx. 1960 map tiles and it works great, it generated a 1.6Gb mapset with 3 different mapsets in it, very handy!
    I was mainly wondering how much the garmin topo set looks like OZTopo.
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  17. Micl

    Micl Been here awhile

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    Maybe we need to get together and compare, is your mapset bigger than mine :eek1

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  18. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    :lol3:lol3 Probably, but it's a virtual pissing contest. Where are you in Canb?
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  19. Micl

    Micl Been here awhile

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    I'm in Kambah, how bout you... Bit busy this week.. In the process of replacing wall in my daughters bedroom with sliding cavity doors, hopefully get it done today then need to paint next weekend. In between need to do oil change/service, install high guard kit (new break lines and bleed) and put new tyres on theKTM :knary

    If I can get it sorted then Delegate, Cancer council ride and maybe Newnes:clap :clap

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  20. GodSilla

    GodSilla I did that.

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    I'm in Kambah too. :D
    Sadly I'm working for Delegate and the Cancer Council rides, a pity as I'd like to do both. I'm not sure about Newnes.
    I think the routable tracks you talked about in the Brindies will all be gazetted roads, whereas the other tracks are logging roads and firetrails that aren't gazetted, and that's the difference. Most comprehensize insurance policies will cover you for gazetted roads, but not the other trails.
    If you need shonky or t4a I have them here, easy to deliver on USB stick.
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