Garmin Zumo 590 Cradle butchery - The How-To

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  1. clfhngr

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  2. jclifton

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    I unboxed my 590LM tonight and now understand the need to modify the cradle cable.

    Hopefully mine mod turns out as well as Rodknee's.

    Jason


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  3. L1Rider

    L1Rider n00b

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    Thanks for the detailed instructions from blender and Rodknee :raabia
    I did mine yesterday.
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    Took some guts to make that $70 cut.

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    Precision circumcision.

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    The power supply wire are separated from the rest by chewing gum paper.

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    I did not touch the cradle.

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    Make sure the battery is installed. Otherwise, the screen gives you a WTF sign.
    Thanks for watching.
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  4. cecilturtle

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    That's a good idea, just leave all the wires in there and don't touch the cradle. I wish I thought of that, it looks like the smoothest one yet! Nice job.
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  5. PackRat

    PackRat Huey Guns

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    That little white power plug looks just like the plugs on my remote phone battery leads......hummmm...... :wink:


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  6. dunc

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    can someone who has had it apart [the cradle] measure the power plug
    is it these measurements
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    a mini micro JST 2.0 PH 2-pin
    looks the same

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  7. ttime4four

    ttime4four Been here awhile

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    Where did you get that mounting plate using the u-bolts?

    I'm looking for something similar...

    :deal
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  8. Rodknee

    Rodknee the post is mightier than the sword...

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    i made it. ubolts were a pain, since i had to buy smaller ones and stretch them to fit. you want it?
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  9. VStromNC

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    I did something slightly different on my Zumo 590 as I switch between my two bikes- Vee and Terra often. On my Vee, I like to have the ability to use the USB interface for Pandora and music selection, etc. On my Terra, I may just go to a simpler route of connecting my Er6i ear plugs to the audio out jack on longer rides without fussing with Bluetooth or USB. Cradle butchery posted by the OP here was not an option for me so I decided to go slightly outside the norm.:lol3

    I was not too keen about buying an extra MC cradle which also meant all of the extraneous wiring harness to deal with not to mention that you have to hardwire to your bike. I also wanted the ability to switch easily to other bikes since most bikes have at least a Ram and a 12v cig adapter.

    So, I basically hacked the wiring harness and installed a 12v cig lighter plug. I think I found this at Radio Shack or maybe even Wally World. It does have a small LED so that I can easily tell if I am getting power. I also wired in an inline fuse to protect my investment.

    I had my Zumo 550 since 2007, until recently sold, with a similar setup without any issues. Of course, the Zumo 550 had a detachable barrel plug to the cradle making it much simpler.

    Here's what I ended up with. I bought a rugged camera case? from Wally World which holds all the wires and tapped the power only to the 12v cig lighter socket.

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    If I need to use the audio jacks or USB interface, I can simply take it out of the case:wink:

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    Here's a photo of it mounted to my DS bike Terra. It can mount just as easily to my Vee using existing Ram and Cig Lighter adapter.

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    Don't laugh:lol3, it works!:deal

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    Jon
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  10. eragon

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    Thanks to ideas in this thread, esp starting with the first butchery exercise, I found it relatively easy to devise my solution. Sorry I haven't got pics of the process; just the outcome. Having found a T5 (the hardest part of the whole task) and removed the back of the cradle, I simply unplugged the long plug (all the audio etc cords) and left it sitting loose. It can't make any contact with anything. Didn't touch the red&black leads or plug; or the silicone. Then cut the thick black cord. Split it at the end a couple of cms so I could cut the audio bundle of wires back further from the end of the black outer casing. Then attached a Merrit plug (so easy with a BMW with Merrit socket right beside the GPS mount). So all the unwanted wires stay in situ.

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  11. advNZer?

    advNZer? Long timer

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    i like that...can restore the other functions later if required
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  12. chrisjk

    chrisjk Been here awhile

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    Thanks for this. I think the 590 and the BMW Nav V are pretty good units on the whole but I have to say Garmin does seem to employ a bunch of morons who get involved in the bike units and software. I have trouble believing that any of their employees ride bikes, apart perhaps from a Harley on interstates.
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  13. dunc

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    i did the blender cut
    worked a treat and got rid of all that extra wiring
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  14. poncie

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    Gentlemen, thank you so much for your innovative ideas. I am about as far from the Adventure Motorbike idea (in one sense) that one can get in that I live in England and ride a Harley Davidson. But I do big journeys around Europe and love having a Sat Nav for both directions and music. My aim is to look simple and basic whilst having all the latest gadgets but subtly done. So for the last ten years I have run a Zumo 550 with a bluetooth dongle plugged into the audio output and a bluetooth receiver in my pocket with in ear phones plugged in under a Davida open face helmet. So to the outside world I am the man who knows his way around everywhere whilst in reality I have the Zumo man in my head! However I really wanted to upgrade to the 590 LM and it's predecesor but everyone said it couldnt be done without large swaithes of wires, which is the last thing I wanted on my stripped down Bobber. But you gentlemen have excelled and I have bought a cradle off Amazon and done the business, the photos and description, right down to the correct T5 screwdriver made it flawless. So twin cable out to a powerlet socket concealed under the tank makes a 590 on the bike about a minute's work. Charley Boorman is a mate of mine and the first time we rode together he was very impressed with my set up...well he should be even more so now with this one. I doff my hat to you guys and will post a picture when it is on the bike...and as a postscript Happy Christmas and whatever one says about Global Warming it's nice to be riding two days before Christmas with a similar level of clothing to late April.
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  15. scootertrog

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    Yeah - it's asinine how Garmin does not provide a basic, power-only cradle without all the spaghetti to mess with.
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  16. JayElDee

    JayElDee not saying what I mean

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    GARMIN, slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch, until.....
    That's where the Three Stooges left it. I wrote this other entry
    http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/garmin-665-wiring-harness-question.1113356/

    Anyway, thanks for this thread. I have gone through the pics, enlarged them and in every one see ONLY one power and one ground. That would make sense. Have no idea what the two black wires are in the harness. Or why/if black wires would be connected to a red power; so they probably don't. I have scraped them down bit by bit and see nothing wire-ish. I see all of y'all just using the 2 wires, black and red. I have seen mention from prev 550 users (I'm one of those) and there is nothing but a red and black on it. So, I am going to "assume" that the wires in question in my post are not really wires, but just serve to stiffen the cable.
    Garmin support was no help...slowly I turned, step by step...
    Thanks again

    EDIT: Later that same day.
    I received 3 emails from Garmin "support." The first two told me the red wire was power and the black one was ground. Really? One told me to do a google (or Bing) search for a schematic. It doesn't exist. Told them that.
    The second one said the two small wires were for the antenna and aux out Of course they were referring to the big ass wires that are the other leads in the harness and again, not answering my question.
    The third was by far the most informative. It told me that that's "propriety information," and I am not going to get an answer. Unbelievable. So I just tried it with the red and the black. It works, it appears. The unit sees the antenna and displays the number to call for service.
    I now this is OT, but maybe this info will help someone else.
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  17. plinz

    plinz Been here awhile

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    Just did the mod myself - was easier than I thought have left just the power wires and stripped out everything else - will put the standard BMW power socket on the end the power it up (hopefully it works). Can't understand why Garmein don't offer 2 different option cradles. Anyhow waiting for silastic to dry, then put together for a test run

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  18. RedRupert

    RedRupert Brit in the Soviet Union

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    Could one power the 590 via the USB only?

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  19. dunc

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    pretty sure it was discussed before and
    NO
    cant remember the reasoning maybe someone else does

    i did the mod here and wired it to a fuse block so it only fires up when the bike is going
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  20. cecilturtle

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    USB is 5v, the cradle is obviously 12v. USB has current limitations as well. Just doubt it'd enough power to run the unit continuously, and you'd have to use the other port on the back rather than the cradle.

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