Garmin zumo 590

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  1. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    Press release here.

    MSRP is $799.99 :eek1

    Another site claimed it might be a replacement for the 665.
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  2. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    I am sure that it is different enough to not violate Garmin's agreement with BMW on the Nav V, but this would appear to be the non-BMW Garmin version of that excellent device.

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    Advantage over Nav V: Audio output jack

    HAve not performed a full feature comparison.
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  3. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I think the biggest advantages might be two fold:
    1. the iOS Media App(s) control - which I suppose could be added to the NAV5 at some point (it's just software) and,
    2. they applied the On The Trail handheld devices battery door no-tools-needed concept.

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  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I suppose the price does seem high when you compare it to other personal electronics: like subsidized cell phones. But, I paid that exact same price 10yrs ago for my GPSMAP 276c. Same price as the BMW NAV5 but you get all of the mounts with the zumo™.
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  5. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    The MSRP will simply cause a fresh round of complaints about the price vs. value... :norton

    I totally agree it's overpriced, and because of that I will not buy one. At $399.99, I think it's a reasonable value. IMO, there is absolutely no technology within this device that hasn't been entirely commoditized in today's market.
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  6. acejones

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    I still like my Zumo 550. It does everything I need it to do.
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  7. SocalRob

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    Looks pretty nice, if a bit pricey. I like the tire monitor system.

    My Zumo 350/450 (can't remember which it is, but probably bought it in 2007) is not turning on all the time lately. Looks like garmin does not service them anymore. Might be time to upgrade.
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  8. FireDog45

    FireDog45 Mid-life crisis sufferer

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    Another thing to consider is that the 590 comes with both a MC and car mount at the same price as the Nav 5 without the 4 button mount.

    Does anyone have any insight to which MC mount it would have? Something like a rugged mount...
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  9. ramjet

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    $1,010.34 in today's money. Ouch! But, any anticipation it will be better than Montana or Monterra? Or just different purpose?
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  10. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Just like a Rugged Mount...

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  11. Tnkrplt

    Tnkrplt Retired...

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    I was looking at getting a Montanna before the 590 was announced. The 590's a bit pricey, but by time I add the mounts and maps the 590 comes standard with they're less than $200 apart. Worth looking at for sure.
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  12. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Better? I don't know about that but different certainly. Montana and Monterra are quite different devices than the zumo/Navigator brands. If you want advanced Routing stay with the zumo/Nav devices. If you want a somewhat largish Handheld device with basic Routing function, the Montana is the most stable at the moment. The Monterra is a hybrid device. When it works, it does most things OK; some things not so great.
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  13. scfrank

    scfrank Old farts riding club.

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    GPS capable tablets are not $800 or subsidized. I understand the volume differences, but this pricing will put them out of business, or limit the market to those with the money.

    Ive decided to put $80 into my 276C for a battery and pwr cable. Ill put up with the screen size.
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  14. quint7

    quint7 "I drove a boat thru the desert"

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    So no option for Sirius/XM Satellite radio like the 550/665?

    That would be great if it caused the price for the 665 to drop. The ability to add Sat. radio is the only reason I'm considering a GPS instead of just using my phone. Lotta places in 'Merica with no cell phone data signal and GB's aren't free anymore on Verizon.
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Here's a topic for speculation. What are all of those connector for?
    1. 12vdc
    2. Mic?
    3. Stereo Audio In?
    4. Stereo Audio Out?
    5. iPod/iPhone ??? Looks to small for the old 30pin Connector and to big for a Lightning.

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  16. EmmEff

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    I noticed that as well... IMO, I think satellite radio is dying and if not, it's certainly not what it used to be. I am a Sirius subscriber and have been for a long time, but I don't think it's what it used to be.

    I agree with you there.
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  17. quint7

    quint7 "I drove a boat thru the desert"

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    Yeah, I'm a 20+ year Stern fan and he is pretty much unlistenable now (when he is even on live). I listen to shows on Radio Classics and 60's-90's music and that's about it, the rest I could give 2 poops about.

    But it is nice to not have to hunt for AM stations in West Texas on road trips.
    If there was a antenna/receiver dongle thing that plugged right into a phone to allow reception when there is no cell signal (like how can work the GPS on phones with the right downloads) that would be great.

    I'll be watching prices on the 665 for the next couple of months...... since it looks like decent riding weather (i.e. no snowsuit type clothing needed) is still months away here.
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  18. Shov3BR

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    This mount cradle is a HUGE improvement over the Zumo 360/390 cradle which has been a disaster.

    It appears that they are going back to 12 volt supply rather than the 5 volt remote regulator setup that is used on the 360/390.

    We have an old Zumo 450 that is 8 or 9 years old and still going strong without a failure. We also have a Montana which has also been across Europe and Central Asia and up to the Arctic Circle and back and is running without issues.

    We purchase a Zumo 360 and the cradle electrical contacts died on the first day of the first ride. We cannot keep that cradle alive. We finally hacked a hole in the back so we could plug in a USB power plug.
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  19. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    What has changed ?
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  20. quint7

    quint7 "I drove a boat thru the desert"

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    In my case, Sirius has dropped some channels all together and on other ones refused to re-sign talent which has caused them to leave.
    Channels I'm aware of being dropped/changed are:
    Book Radio (audiobooks), Playboy (meh), Maxim (was funny sometimes), a lot of the music channels have changed to a 'similar' format but with different playlists, some of the news channels are gone (on both sides of the spectrum), Stern's 2nd Channel is pointless now and he only works 2-3 days a week on his regular one, I gave up on Raw Dog after Jim Brewer's show was canned.......

    For sports I'm sure it's awesome. For music I recognize the playlists as being smaller than back in the days of AOR FM. For news? I do NPR sometimes but the 2-3 shows I listen to are on my local AM station at the same time so I'm only on Sirius to get better reception and Car Talk is done with new shows so there goes that. Even Radio Classics, which I genuinely love, is stuck replaying shows because there were only so many Jack Benny and The Shadow shows made. At least the guy who runs that makes a point of not replaying any shows for a year after their run on the channel.

    Radio on the bike for me is really for those long roads to nowhere on the way to somewhere. It takes 4+ hours to get near anywhere 'interesting' from here (Pitt, Cleveland, NYC, Boston, Toronto, etc.) as I've explored this part of NY to the point that the first/last day of riding on a trip can seem like 'work'. Once I'm somewhere new I want to check stuff out and radio isn't a priority.
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