Gas Gas Contact 250 or Beta Evo Sport 200?

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  1. Diamondman

    Diamondman Always bringing up the rear, but still having FUN!

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    Ok, Ive narrowed it down to these two bikes. Please help me in choosing the right one. The gas gas is quite a bit less money, but the beta has a bigger gas tank and this will be used for trail riding by my wife, and a trials learning bike for me. Every used bike gets sold out from under me, or its as much as a new one of these, and we don't need TOP notch bike, as we are just learning.
    thanks!
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  2. BEEF706

    BEEF706 King of the dumb dab

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    In our area Beta has a better reputation than Gasgas, I have had the chance to ride a Beta 200 and that is a really nice bike, I could easily ride that as an amatuer or intermediate here. I think it would be ideal to learn on
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  3. markwoodlief

    markwoodlief Long timer

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    people will talk trash about the contact, mostly people that have never ridden one. I bough tone for my SO and my 13yo daughter. we all LOVED the bike. I actually ride that bike more than my 14 Ossa Factory. Really fun bikes to ride.. I put the slow throttle tube on ours for the girls, and low and behold I like it better with the slower throttle. The bike is really manageable. Draw backs are OEM tires and very soft front suspension. I found adding a little fork oil change the front forks dramatically. But reality is, for MOST normal people, not pro's or experts, the contact is a perfect bike. Beta is nice as well though, but i'm obviously a GasGas fan. :)..

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  4. Diamondman

    Diamondman Always bringing up the rear, but still having FUN!

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    that seat is what my wife wants. a place to sit on during a day out riding.
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    it also really helps out when they are learning to kick the bike over. Although the 18's have estart our 17 doesn't. Also Kaylee, my daughter uses the seat to get moving, as she has spent more time on an enduro bike than trials, so still getting the feet wet.
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  6. jonnyc21

    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    The Beta 200 would be my call, not knocking the Contact, just most of the ladies I have taught to ride do better starting the smaller displacement bikes.

    Then considering I could ride intermediate on my wife's current Gas Gas 125 at 190lbs I am sure the 200 would be fine for you to do trials on.

    My 2 cents.

    Good luck.
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    Thr Gas Gas is not as freindly a bike power wise.
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    I completely disagree.. put the black 'slow' throttle tube on it and it's FRIENDLIER than the beta. I have a contact and have spent a lot of time on my buddies beta 200..
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    lamotovita DAMN SNOWBIRD!

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    By the time you upgrade tires and suspension on the Contact the Beta probably isn't much more expensive. If your wife thinks she's going to ride either of these bikes seated she's likely to be dissapointed. The 2018 Contact with it's electric start may be worth considering.
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    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    Good point, my wife rides standing most of the time and I have a seat pad for her. She will use the seat at slow speeds on strait and smoother sections but even then not often.
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    I've been impressed by how uncomfortable the Evo is on trails. Even with my custom-built seat my legs are folded back and it is pretty uncomfortable. Unless your wife is very short it may not be a good choice.

    I've had to adjust my expectations: it is a trials bike with a rest position. Here are my notes: http://bit.ly/2vFhAk2
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  12. Diamondman

    Diamondman Always bringing up the rear, but still having FUN!

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    I should have put in the original post, she is 5'3". average build. So, yes, she is on the shorter side....
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    jonnyc21 Trials Ninja

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    Ya good point, my wife is 5' 4" and average build so not tall. She still prefers to stand on the trails.

    Also to connect it all together, she is on a 08 Gas Gas 125 and her seat, though not the same as the contact, is positioned in about the same location as the seat on a contact.
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    If she is that short, an added seat is not needed. Do not overlook the Beta 80 as a great first bike for a women
    Granitic, any trials bike is not comfortable sitting down.
    The Gas Gas transmission is not ment for trail type riding. The Beta 200 is well known as the best all around begginer bike that is available. Almost impossible to find used.
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  16. Harry Potter

    Harry Potter Been here awhile

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    Either bike sounds like fun. If I was going Beta Sport, I for myself would do the 300 4t but it is harder to kick start. If your wife is like mine the only option would be the 2018 E start GG Contact. An easy to kick start hybrid bike like the Sherco X-Ride 125 would be a good stand or sit down bike.
    Here is Gumby's review of the X-Ride:
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  17. KimDN

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    My wife trail rides the Evo 200. She rode an Evo 125 for two years and was happy--but as a man I can't help but want 'more', so we replaced it with a 200. She likes it a little better she says, but it is a little harder to kick over for her 5'2" frame. We have the seat/tank kit for it, although currently I have a CRF50 seat attached since it allows her better foot placement since it is lower. She rides standing most of the time, but in the technical stuff she'll sit.

    Super fun bike! We put a KTM thottle on it with a G2 throttle tamer, it is much quicker than a fast trials throttle but the main reason is so the cable doesn't get pulled out of the housing by a tree branch. When we first did that on the 125, it made it feel like a 200. I could trail ride it all day and be happy; it wouldn't be my regular ride, but I could do it periodically.

    Waiting for someone to get the e-start Contact here, that will probably be the next bike for her. E start is a game changer for us shorties in the trails.
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  18. Diamondman

    Diamondman Always bringing up the rear, but still having FUN!

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    Thanks everyone for the news and advice...I'm probably going to buy the first one of either of these that pops up at a good deal somewhere close to me.
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  19. Rubicon79

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    Adding this here since my wife is looking.

    She started this year on a KLX140L and has outgrown that bikes power. She's actually a decent rider and enjoys the technical slow stuff over fast riding. Even on the open fast stuff she doesn't like going fast.

    We all ride endure bikes on single track that's is mostly slower technical stuff and she tags along. She's a trooper and never complains though.

    The problem is she's 5'3 and 130 lbs. She's fairly strong, gym 4 days a week, but she likes to be able to dab when needed. She had a taller bike and hated it so it can't be any taller than what she has.

    She is wanting a new Gas Gas contact 250 and there's a dealer close by but we would be buying sight unseen and ordering it.

    Is this a terrible idea? She's convinced its what she wants but we did that once before and it cost me $2k for one trail ride.

    Range isn't an issue but how are they for trail riding? What about handguards?

    We are close to pulling the trigger but I'm not convinced so any advice is greatly appreciated!
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  20. KimDN

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    We just got a Gasgas 280 estart, first ride will be this Sunday for my wife. She's been on a few different trials bikes in the last few years, we only trail ride in technical terrain. Current bike for her is a 2017 Beta 200, really great bike. She uses the Beta seat/tank kit, or a modded CRF50 seat to fit when it's going to be a really technical day (she's 5'1 and the CRF seat is a little lower for her). Trials bikes are definitely not sit down bikes, even with the seat kit. But they are so easy/comfortable to stand on, I bet your wife won't have a problem. Just takes a little bit of time to get used to the riding position. Tell here that she won't have to work her core anymore, standing on the trials bike will take care of that! We cut the bars and put on some plastic full wrap hand guards, and that's it.

    I am anticipating that the Beta will feel better, but the e start will easily make the trade off worthwhile. Hopefully I'm wrong and she won't find the Gasgas to handle any worse than the Beta....
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