Thanks for all the great reports and tracks. I am looking to visit the North Rim this next week. And wonder if you need a permit to Camp out at Point Sublime? Looking for some places to camp out near the rim with having to go through the permit process. I would be up for other locations than Point Sublime if any one has a good recommendations. Looks like i would be traveling from Jacob Lake. Will be with 2 other riders all on bigger BMW adv bikes. Thanks in advance.