Geek's Guide to Colorado.

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Day Trippin'' started by Geek, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. Wasser

    Wasser Spilt my beer

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    From a native to a non-native, ya done nice work Geek! :clap

    Welcome and glad to have great people like you sharing the awesome sights, trails, and reporting! Keep up the great work.

    Hope to run into you one of these days. Cold beer is on me. :D

    You do need to add a disclaimer though......

    Please enjoy your visit and riding in Colorado but, you can't move here. Their is no more room for anybody else. :lol3

    Looking forward to more posts.
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  2. grub

    grub Requires Supervision

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    great job Geek, those black bear pictures still kill me :lol3 :lol3
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  3. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    Hondo coming down Mosquito Pass. Mosquito is one of the highest passes in Colorado which will take you over 13,000 feet, but you need to be on a bike that you are comfortable riding over "baby head scree" for a couple of steep stretches.
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    I've been trying to decide how to rate a Pass's difficulty? I've had many different ideas but none seem to be a "best solution". Perhaps the easiest might be a simple scale of 1 to 4... I am open to suggestions? Then there is the issue of some routes being inconsistent... Black Bear might only be a 2 for most of it but could be a 3 or 4 for about 150 yards of it.

    Then there is an issue of what I find easy someone else might find hard or vice versa...

    Off the top of my head, some of the passes I'll be writing about include:

    Guanella Pass
    Webster Pass
    Redcone
    Radical Hill
    Middle fork of Swan Creek
    Georgia Pass
    Lasalle Pass
    Independance Pass
    Weston Pass
    Boreas Pass
    Tomichi Pass
    Hancock Pass
    Hagerman Pass
    Taylor Pass
    Cottonwood Pass
    Hayden Pass
    Cinammon Pass
    Engineer Pass
    Corkscrew Pass
    California Pass
    Hurricane Pass
    Ophir Pass
    Black Bear Pass
    Imogene Pass
    Mosquito Pass
    Kingston Peak
    Tincup Pass
    Kebler Pass
    Scholfield Pass

    ...I am sure there are more.. but those give you some idea of the scope of what I'm working on. I'm going to try and take some time to map each one out so non-locals can actually have a hope of finding them if they are so inclined.

    I'll also talk about some great routes/areas like Peak to Peak Highway, Riding up Mt. Princeton, The Poudre Canyon, Taylor Park, Four Mile, etc.

    ...and then I'll see from there.

    Sure there are plenty of more "involved" rides that Colorado locals like Enduro-ince, Unaweep, Esteban, Doug Render, Hellsickle, etc know.. but I'm aiming this at someone who is wanting to come to Colorado and be able to find some "epic stuff" on their own. Stuff that they can enjoy without a tour guide.

    None of these passes are 'secret'. They are all public access routes that you may or may not happen upon if you were to exploring Colorado on your own. Many of them are very technical. Many of them your granny could enjoy.

    So with that in mind, I'll also try and give indication on what a specific route's appeal is be it stunning views, technical challenge, etc. Maybe I should put some sort of "desirability" rating?
    Like which ones are the most impressive, must do, etc ?

    I'm open to suggestions before I delve in as I'm hoping to come up with a "format" I can use consistently for each route as opposed to just babbling on randomly about each...

    Is more information better or is less information better?
    Thoughts? :lurk

    Perhaps I'll just wing it. I'll get started tomorrow.


    American Flag Mountain in the heart of Taylor Park is a ride you won't soon forget!
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  4. tele-steve

    tele-steve ya' mon

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    Great thread Geek!

    For a rating system I would look at the river classification for rafting and kayaking. This is done on a system of Class I-V, with a break down of +/- for another level of detail. Check out this link for an example.

    Class I would be "easy graded dirt road, easy 2-up", Class V+ "remote, very difficult, break down or injury can lead to extended (multiple hours) evacuation times or impossible recovery of vehicle"

    You can then also rate the passes as "mostly Class II with a short Class III section of 100 yrds".

    A really great guide book for reference is Colorado River and Creeks. This was written by some local (Boulder) guys who know a thing or two about boating, but also know how to write a guide book.

    I know this is a lot of work, but I know a lot of people will find it really helpful.
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  5. Brian-M

    Brian-M Melting in GA

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    Well... this thread has successfully engaged that 'itch'...





    bastard. Doing that to someone with no money (and nothing but time).
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  6. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    You just need to get your priorities straight Brian and trade that crotch rocket for a big thumper with some knobbies :evil
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  7. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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  8. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    since geek is spacing on steamboat/nw colo area i'll write about that.

    buffalo pass (routt nf) comes from north park over the mountains to steamboat. i'd rate it a 2. it's scenic and could be done on a big gs. plenty of camping up there. steamboat area has a ton of graded county rds to explore. north of steamboat is hahns peak/little red park area. this is dirtbike heaven as it's sparsely populated. there is plenty of technical jeep rds & ample single track. you can camp and base outta little red park for days on end of mtn riding. steamboat has 2 natural hot springs: strawberry park & old town hot springs/health & rec. steamboat has alot to do in the summer if you bring the family & you go ride.

    http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/mbr/recreation/travel_management/mvumindex.shtml
    http://www.steamboat-chamber.com/
    http://www.strawberryhotsprings.com/2005/
    http://www.steamboathotsprings.org/

    west of steamboat is dinosaur n.m. & browns park. this is wild west stuff. very remote & scenic. craig is the base town. gas is avail in craig, town of dinosaur & the browns park store till 7pm. dino has a ride down to the confluence (echo park) of the green & yampa rivers with camping. unreal canyon ride that should be a must do for anyone. imagine riding to the bottom of the grand canyon & camping. few people outside of the area even know about it. the yampa bench rd is a great ride that follows the yampa. north of craig is the bears ears district with jeep rds & single track. it's the western continuation of the hahns peak forest area. nwcolo is a member here and he lives in craig & knows the nw part of the state.

    http://www.nps.gov/dino/planyourvisit/maps.htm
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  9. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    I'm not spacing on it at all Bill... I'll be putting info about it and I'll be appending that info as I go deeper into Dinosaur on my 950 this summer than I got doing 80 miles of dirt around there on my R90 last year :ricky I can't wait!

    I'm going to make an effort over time to make sure this report includes bits of all of Colorado (some of it will be written while I'm off exploring Montana :lol3 ).

    That said.. I appreciate your input! :freaky
    I've not ridden Buffalo Pass and will pop over and check it out sometime soon.
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  10. eakins

    eakins Butler Maps

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    oh good. us mtn folk way out here were feelin left out.
    let us know when you want to camp down there.
    it's a spring thing like moab as it gets hot in the summer.

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  11. pyrate

    pyrate Walking the plank

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    Yerba Mate works well too!

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  12. kaia

    kaia team F5 ⌘R

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    i think you've just mentioned your rating system, in some way. one rating system isn't going to work for everything, and everyone. do a triple rating... ie: rate it on a 1-5 scale (or 1-10) for three categories of riders: average joe, neduro, and 2up. give each pass or route three scores, one for each group. each person reading it will quickly get the drift, and be able to figure out how they want to read the score for themselves, from the information from the three.?

    call it the trinity scoring system, or something. :wink:
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  13. z987k

    z987k Long timer

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    Nope.

    Pilots are required to use oxygen IF they are above 12,500 ft for more than 30 mins, or they are above 14,000.
    We're required to provide passengers with oxygen above 15,000.
    These are all cabin pressure altitudes.

    I think the FAA recommends using oxygen at 10,000 during the day and 5,000 at night, but I don't know anyone who follows that.
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  14. joenuclear

    joenuclear Ride to eat, eat to ride... all roads lead to pie!

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    Not a problem, I spent a year in Leadville and I'd rather visit during warm weather.:D
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  15. AceThumperPilot

    AceThumperPilot Been here awhile

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    Happy Trails
    Really enjoy your post. As a Flatlander and coming our to CO this summer it will make it nice to know where to go and what to expect.
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  16. SteveRed

    SteveRed Adventure Moto

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    Hey Geek.. Was nice to meet you at Paul's shed the other week. I might very well take up your offer when I do the Divide ride, for some guided trails through CO. Let me know when you want to come downunder for an Aussie ride.

    Cheers

    SteveRed
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  17. MizzouRider

    MizzouRider Long timer

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    Jimmy... Thanks for your service. Seriously..
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  18. Thinc2

    Thinc2 Paciugo

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    What happened to the real Geek - this all sounds so responsible.
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  19. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    Don't worry Tim... I'll find a photo or two of your bike laying on its side to include in this ride report :lol3
    (Thinc2 owned the Yellow DRZ you see in the Red Cone photo.. he used to kindly let me borrow it when I didn't have a bike a few years back :freaky )

    SteveRed: Great to meet you too mate. Us bald brothers need to stick together. :D If you, Ned and myself end up in a bar together we're going to scare the locals :freaky Enjoy your Autumn cuz winter is coming! :ksteve


    edit: Here you go Tim.. there is some nice footage of us taking really good care of your bike in this video :hide


    For those wondering.. this is the Middle Fork of Swan Creek.
    Needless to say I won't be recommending it for big bikes or for 2 up :lol3
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  20. Spinalcracker

    Spinalcracker former redriderofma

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    A rating system would be great especially for us from the east planing a trip out that way who have never ridden high mountain passes. I'm not fond of precipitous heights either.

    I think a simple scale of 1-4 would be great with photos of course. "This pass is a 2 with a section at 3 going up" something like that maybe.

    With the photos if you take them with someone on the tough parts it would give scale to the photo.

    Thanks for the great report.